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Post by cadman on Mar 5, 2024 7:24:34 GMT -5
Wishing non lethal innocent people dead is wrong period. Yes, there are murderers, rapists and pedophiles that I would rather see taken off of this earth. However, I don’t believe the threat or ideas of killing people should be taken lightly. I always have been reviled by idle threats from lightweight idiot people. I have known some tough people in my life. Veterans that have taken many lives. It seems that these people never speak or threaten to kill anyone. The more lethal the acquaintance the less violent they seem to speak. Just my 2 cents. They were hardly innocent. They had broken through a window and tried to enter a secured area. The police had no idea if they were lethal or not. They had been warned not to enter. I do not see any other choice for the officers in that situation. The investigation of the shooting found the officer acted in self defense or defense of members of congress.
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Post by gandy on Mar 5, 2024 7:36:30 GMT -5
Wishing non lethal innocent people dead is wrong period. Yes, there are murderers, rapists and pedophiles that I would rather see taken off of this earth. However, I don’t believe the threat or ideas of killing people should be taken lightly. I always have been reviled by idle threats from lightweight idiot people. I have known some tough people in my life. Veterans that have taken many lives. It seems that these people never speak or threaten to kill anyone. The more lethal the acquaintance the less violent they seem to speak. Just my 2 cents. They were hardly innocent. They had broken through a window and tried to enter a secured area. The police had no idea if they were lethal or not. They had been warned not to enter. I do not see any other choice for the officers in that situation. The investigation of the shooting found the officer acted in self defense or defense of members of congress. If 1-6-21 was what the news has claimed. There would have been 10's and hundred's dead and broken on the street. Hospitals would have overflowed. But that didn't happen. It was a planned fluff show that did have a few accidents. Put on to be sensationalized and tug at the hearts of those whose minds are easily manipulated. It's still working.
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Post by tonyroma on Mar 5, 2024 7:57:01 GMT -5
I don’t think the police officers defending the capital would agree with your opinion.
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Post by gandy on Mar 5, 2024 8:00:03 GMT -5
Doesn't have to. No one does. It is a pretty clear observation looking from the outside.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Mar 5, 2024 8:01:41 GMT -5
Wishing non lethal innocent people dead is wrong period. Yes, there are murderers, rapists and pedophiles that I would rather see taken off of this earth. However, I don’t believe the threat or ideas of killing people should be taken lightly. I always have been reviled by idle threats from lightweight idiot people. I have known some tough people in my life. Veterans that have taken many lives. It seems that these people never speak or threaten to kill anyone. The more lethal the acquaintance the less violent they seem to speak. Just my 2 cents. They were hardly innocent. They had broken through a window and tried to enter a secured area. The police had no idea if they were lethal or not. They had been warned not to enter. I do not see any other choice for the officers in that situation. The investigation of the shooting found the officer acted in self defense or defense of members of congress. I was referring specifically to the threat seemingly directed at the adversaries of the “Biden Crime Family” not any actions taken or proposed against the January 6th idiots.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Mar 5, 2024 8:02:59 GMT -5
Wow, 102 pages. Didn’t someone say that they would have to vote for Trump if this thread hit 100 pages?
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Post by cadman on Mar 5, 2024 8:19:12 GMT -5
They were hardly innocent. They had broken through a window and tried to enter a secured area. The police had no idea if they were lethal or not. They had been warned not to enter. I do not see any other choice for the officers in that situation. The investigation of the shooting found the officer acted in self defense or defense of members of congress. I was referring specifically to the threat seemingly directed at the adversaries of the “Biden Crime Family” not any actions taken or proposed against the January 6th idiots. You lost me, the issue here was actions taken against the january 6th idiots.
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Post by cadman on Mar 5, 2024 8:30:49 GMT -5
They were hardly innocent. They had broken through a window and tried to enter a secured area. The police had no idea if they were lethal or not. They had been warned not to enter. I do not see any other choice for the officers in that situation. The investigation of the shooting found the officer acted in self defense or defense of members of congress. If 1-6-21 was what the news has claimed. There would have been 10's and hundred's dead and broken on the street. Hospitals would have overflowed. But that didn't happen. It was a planned fluff show that did have a few accidents. Put on to be sensationalized and tug at the hearts of those whose minds are easily manipulated. It's still working. It is always easy to armchair quarterback any situation after the event. People do it all the time with police shootings trying to say whether or not an officer should have shot somebody. It is a whole lot different in the middle of the event. At the time in the moment, the officer only knew that his job was to protect members of congress and those rioters were attempting to access the location where members of congress were. They were using flag poles and various other weapons to break out windows and try to enter the secure doors. He had no idea what their intentions were once they entered. He only knew he had to prevent them from entering. You can believe whatever you want to justify the rioters actions, but if you ever have an angry mob armed with clubs coming at you, tell me you are just going to stand there and let them come. I am sure everything will be fine.
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Post by gandy on Mar 5, 2024 8:38:35 GMT -5
If 1-6-21 was what the news has claimed. There would have been 10's and hundred's dead and broken on the street. Hospitals would have overflowed. But that didn't happen. It was a planned fluff show that did have a few accidents. Put on to be sensationalized and tug at the hearts of those whose minds are easily manipulated. It's still working. It is always easy to armchair quarterback any situation after the event. People do it all the time with police shootings trying to say whether or not an officer should have shot somebody. It is a whole lot different in the middle of the event. At the time in the moment, the officer only knew that his job was to protect members of congress and those rioters were attempting to access the location where members of congress were. They were using flag poles and various other weapons to break out windows and try to enter the secure doors. He had no idea what their intentions were once they entered. He only knew he had to prevent them from entering. You can believe whatever you want to justify the rioters actions, but if you ever have an angry mob armed with clubs coming at you, tell me you are just going to stand there and let them come. I am sure everything will be fine. Nothing to argue about. If it was intended to be more than a fluff show there would have been carnage. But there wasn't carnage and it "did have a few accidents" and the sensationalization is still working.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Mar 5, 2024 9:06:57 GMT -5
I was referring specifically to the threat seemingly directed at the adversaries of the “Biden Crime Family” not any actions taken or proposed against the January 6th idiots. You lost me, the issue here was actions taken against the january 6th idiots. There were probably two trains of thought running at the same time. The 01/06 threat I did not pick up on. The threat that I was referring to was the “drone strikes” to cite everything that was going wrong for the Bidens justified by the 100% presidential immunity that is being decided by the Supreme Court.
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Post by mapper on Mar 5, 2024 11:28:06 GMT -5
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Post by mapper on Mar 5, 2024 11:38:14 GMT -5
It is always easy to armchair quarterback any situation after the event. People do it all the time with police shootings trying to say whether or not an officer should have shot somebody. It is a whole lot different in the middle of the event. At the time in the moment, the officer only knew that his job was to protect members of congress and those rioters were attempting to access the location where members of congress were. They were using flag poles and various other weapons to break out windows and try to enter the secure doors. He had no idea what their intentions were once they entered. He only knew he had to prevent them from entering. You can believe whatever you want to justify the rioters actions, but if you ever have an angry mob armed with clubs coming at you, tell me you are just going to stand there and let them come. I am sure everything will be fine. Nothing to argue about. If it was intended to be more than a fluff show there would have been carnage. But there wasn't carnage and it "did have a few accidents" and the sensationalization is still working. If the Trump supporters were radical fringe right wing extremists as the narrative would like to paint it it would have had a diffrent outcome than the fluff sightseeing trip it was. As far as officer actions, and threat assessment, I have no issue with that. More a issue of scope of it and how it is portrayed. Trump/Nugent 2024.. freedom tour.
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Post by gandy on Mar 5, 2024 12:04:38 GMT -5
Trump/Gabbard ftw
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Post by mapper on Mar 5, 2024 12:27:29 GMT -5
If Ted Nugent isn't available to serve as VP, I could support Gabbard. Would prefer Ted though.. Trump/Nugent 2024 Freedom tour
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Post by luapnor on Mar 5, 2024 12:30:38 GMT -5
Gabbard is anti-2A
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