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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:45:11 GMT -5
You're arguing that it was a cat instead of a dog and in Dayton instead of Springfield. Are you serious? That's like arguing the facts of a shooting saying it was a Glock not a Walther and it was a 40cal not a 9mm. This is the problem with democrats. So one isolated instance of a clearly mentally disturbed woman deserves a mention at a presidential debate. It’s racist fear mongering plain and simple. Vilify the Haitians for political gain. Your pivot from disputing to a defensive stance deserves a smile
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 10:45:17 GMT -5
Trump was specifically talking about botched Surgical Abortions which is where the fetus is not deceased before being delivered, then the fetus is terminated after it is outside of the womb. Dr Trump hasn't been practicing for quite a while now. I'm not holding him to the specifics of how the procedure is performed nor whether he had perfect use of the phrase 'term'. It just amazing me how you all want to inspect each individual word and seize on a single technicality. lozierinstitute.org/the-reality-of-late-term-abortion-procedures/Are you disputing the fact of late term abortions? Of course there are late term abortions. But, anything that happens after birth is no longer abortive care, and really has nothing to do with abortion either legally or medically. www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-made-false-claims-late-term-abortion-debate-rcna159460
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:46:45 GMT -5
Ahhh so now we're on to defining abortion. So once the fetus is outside the womb, technically it's no longer an abortion. Got it. It's the damn technicalities again.
So what do we call it when we terminate a fetus outside of the womb?
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 10:50:49 GMT -5
Ahhh so now we're on to defining abortion. So once the fetus is outside the womb, technically it's no longer an abortion. Got it. It's the damn technicalities again. So what do we call it when we terminate a fetus outside of the womb? I don't know, euthanasia maybe? But, the fact of the matter is that once a baby is delivered, the pregnancy is over, and medical care at that point has nothing to do with abortion law or any vote. Make sure you apply your technical standards to Trump's claim too.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:55:28 GMT -5
I give them both the same leeway. I wouldn't expect Harris to properly articulate a medial procedure either. But to act like the statement is completely false due to a technicality in the explanation is just playing ignorant. We're all adults here so cut the childish bullshit all of yall.
It's literally like I'm taking to my fucking toddler saying "it's 8 oclock, time for bed." Then he replies no it's only 7:58.
This is exactly what it feel like talking with some of yall.
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 12, 2024 10:58:11 GMT -5
So one isolated instance of a clearly mentally disturbed woman deserves a mention at a presidential debate. It’s racist fear mongering plain and simple. Vilify the Haitians for political gain. Your pivot from disputing to a defensive stance deserves a smile No pivot here, but I’m glad I put a smile on your face. “They are eating dogs” was magnificent, truly showed Trumps grasp on what’s important to the American people. Guy really has his finger on the pulse. If he’s smart he will create some campaign ads high lighting the plait of domestic animals in the state of Ohio.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 11:03:32 GMT -5
I give them both the same leeway. I wouldn't expect Harris to properly articulate a medial procedure either. But to act like the statement is completely false due to a technicality in the explanation is just playing ignorant. We're all adults here so cut the childish bullshit all of yall. It's literally like I'm taking to my fucking toddler saying "it's 8 oclock, time for bed." Then he replies no it's only 7:58. This is exactly what it feel like talking with some of yall. BS again. Trump knows exactly what he's doing by repetitively framing it so inauthentically and with out specificity hundreds of times despite of have ample time to clarify, yet he doesn't. You, and others, take that bait hook line and sinker and cry that it's not what he meant. He's been making the same claim, the same way, for over a year. A toddler would know better than to make such a disingenuous defense.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 12:01:50 GMT -5
Your pivot from disputing to a defensive stance deserves a smile No pivot here, but I’m glad I put a smile on your face. “They are eating dogs” was magnificent, truly showed Trumps grasp on what’s important to the American people. Guy really has his finger on the pulse. If he’s smart he will create some campaign ads high lighting the plait of domestic animals in the state of Ohio. I would say disputing the incident to then stating it was isolated would be a change or a pivot in your stance. But maybe your acknowledgement is just a technicality. Those keep popping up
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 12:04:57 GMT -5
That's your opinion that he's purposely framing it inauthentically. I don't agree with you though and that's fine.
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Post by One Man Gang on Sept 12, 2024 12:11:44 GMT -5
Face it, the debate was largely underwhelming and about as substantial as any rational person should have expected. They both looked like dolts but I still embrace trumps policies way more than Que mala.
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Post by meateater on Sept 12, 2024 12:15:35 GMT -5
just seems its part of the hardcore democrat playbook, never admit to anything that may give open borders a bad rap, not 1 of these guys will admit anything negative from the open borders the last 3 years. illegal immigrants are nothing but a strain on the american citizen and do not benefit the country compared what we spend. i know they steal horses,goats,ducks and eat them. dogs and cats i dont think so but im wrong all the time.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 12:18:16 GMT -5
just seems its part of the hardcore democrat playbook, never admit to anything that may give open borders a bad rap, not 1 of these guys will admit anything negative from the open borders the last 3 years. illegal immigrants are nothing but a strain on the american citizen and do not benefit the country compared what we spend. i know they steal horses,goats,ducks and eat them. dogs and cats i dont think so but im wrong all the time. The little boy has cried wolf over so much bullshit for so long that they simply have no credibility on anything. They blew their wad on tan suits, mustard on burgers, Bud Light, and horny green M&Ms.
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Post by meateater on Sept 12, 2024 12:20:51 GMT -5
just seems its part of the hardcore democrat playbook, never admit to anything that may give open borders a bad rap, not 1 of these guys will admit anything negative from the open borders the last 3 years. illegal immigrants are nothing but a strain on the american citizen and do not benefit the country compared what we spend. i know they steal horses,goats,ducks and eat them. dogs and cats i dont think so but im wrong all the time. The little boy has cried wolf over so much bullshit for so long that they simply have no credibility on anything. They blew their wad on tan suits, mustard on burgers, Bud Light, and horny green M&Ms. thats a weird way to say im for open borders.
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Post by cadman on Sept 12, 2024 12:37:31 GMT -5
just seems its part of the hardcore democrat playbook, never admit to anything that may give open borders a bad rap, not 1 of these guys will admit anything negative from the open borders the last 3 years. illegal immigrants are nothing but a strain on the american citizen and do not benefit the country compared what we spend. i know they steal horses,goats,ducks and eat them. dogs and cats i dont think so but im wrong all the time. Don't need to steal ducks around here, they hang out at every retention pond. I could see stealing a goat from a farm. probably done a lot by legal and illegal people. Horse seems like that not be that easy, pretty big animal to just throw in the back of the SUV. Some illegals are a benefit. Do you know around 50% the illegals in this country have been here longer than 10 years, millions came here as children, grew up and got good jobs through DACA, some have served in the military. Some are married to legal citizens. And some are bad people. I agree we need to do a lot better job keeping them out. Still say armed soldiers at the border would be the best solution. But if an illegal made it tens years or came here as a child and only know the U.S. as their home, we need to agree there should be a method for them to become legal if they have not gotten into trouble.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 12:47:18 GMT -5
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