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Post by meateater on Aug 29, 2024 8:47:14 GMT -5
You do when the base is shrinking and dying out. A NASCAR event ain't cheap to put on, if you don't have the attendance to support it, you move to locations that do. wrong, you wouldnt know about nascar if dick trickle ran over your clitoris.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 29, 2024 9:37:30 GMT -5
You don't try to expand the brand at the expense of your hard core dedicated base, pure idiocy. The "hard core dedicated base" is dying out. It would take an idiot not to see that.
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Post by meateater on Aug 29, 2024 10:31:18 GMT -5
You don't try to expand the brand at the expense of your hard core dedicated base, pure idiocy. The "hard core dedicated base" is dying out. It would take an idiot not to see that. disagree. im a idiot.
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Post by luapnor on Aug 29, 2024 10:57:52 GMT -5
You do when the base is shrinking and dying out. A NASCAR event ain't cheap to put on, if you don't have the attendance to support it, you move to locations that do. Lol... After 25 years of fucking over the og base, you have to be truly ignorant to blame the base. Wilksboro has entered the chat..
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Post by cadman on Aug 29, 2024 11:05:48 GMT -5
You do when the base is shrinking and dying out. A NASCAR event ain't cheap to put on, if you don't have the attendance to support it, you move to locations that do. wrong, you wouldnt know about nascar if dick trickle ran over your clitoris. Where am I wrong? Richmond raceway removed over half of its seating, going from 103,000 to only 51,000. 20 years ago NASCAR could fill 100,000 seats at a race, now they have problems filling 50,000. If you don't think their audience is shrinking you're clueless. Insulting people won't change the facts. I used to attend both Daytona races every year in the 80s and 90s.
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Post by 1outlaw on Aug 29, 2024 11:11:46 GMT -5
After Dale died the sport nascar died. I quit watching. I started watching about a year ago. Hard to get into it when you dont have a driver your supporting.
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Post by gardawg on Aug 29, 2024 11:29:44 GMT -5
You guys can piss and moan all you want ... the racing in NASCAR is better than ever.
what's happening is that younger folk no longer equate their car with good times ...
it's no longer a 'freedom machine' ... cars are seen as a huge drag on your finances ...
and heavy traffic everywhere takes the enjoyment out of driving ...
that and the race cars are too damn loud for most folk ...
I'd rather stay at home and watch it on TV ... or watch the in-car cameras on the NASCAR web page and listen to MRN radio which is also available on the web page ...
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Post by cadman on Aug 29, 2024 11:41:58 GMT -5
Due to the Fast and Furious movie, I think younger people are more into drifting and Formula One racing than the NASCAR oval track racing. Drifting is the fastest-growing motorsport right now.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 29, 2024 11:44:58 GMT -5
Due to the Fast and Furious movie, I think younger people are more into drifting and Formula One racing than the NASCAR oval track racing. Drifting is the fastest-growing motorsport right now. And it's gheyyyy. Seriously I hate rednecks. Been surrounded by them my entire life. But that was NASCARs bread and butter. It was their thing. But they shit on the bread and used it to clap
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Post by tampaspicer on Aug 29, 2024 11:58:54 GMT -5
The Necks are going to be all up in arms over this. Good Ol Roundy Round racing crosses over to the immigrants/illegals homeland.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 29, 2024 11:59:39 GMT -5
You guys can piss and moan all you want ... the racing in NASCAR is better than ever. what's happening is that younger folk no longer equate their car with good times ... it's no longer a 'freedom machine' ... cars are seen as a huge drag on your finances ... and heavy traffic everywhere takes the enjoyment out of driving ... that and the race cars are too damn loud for most folk ... I'd rather stay at home and watch it on TV ... or watch the in-car cameras on the NASCAR web page and listen to MRN radio which is also available on the web page ... Sort of off topic but related. I said this years ago. Young men like hot rods. And that culture largely existed when a 16-25 year old could work and afford a "hot rod" No the car didn't have power windows, door locks, or even AC. But it had a elephant, rat, a 6pack, 4 barrel carbs and a hurst shifter. Detroit tried to keep that same crowd over the next 40+ years. The cars got a lot more expensive. Difficult to work on. And I know for a fact climbing into a camero and climbing out of it at 16. Turns into falling into a camero and rolling out at 40. They did it to themselves. The boomers and older Gen X guys simply outgrew (literally some of us can't fit in the damn things) the cars. And then the other costs of owning a "hot rod". In the mid 00s I was going g to buy my sister and BILs 00 Z28. It wasn't very practical though with the 6 speed it did get 30mph. Then I found out my insurance was going to be almost 2.5 ti.es my car payment. Eff that!!!!. Instead of trying to market a $60k Camero to 50-70 year olds they should have been marketing a 25-30k Camero to 16-25 year olds. And they woukd have sold like hot cakes. So of course the kids naturally gravitated to cheap imports and tuners. Sure they are slow (there are wxceptions) and sound retarded with the muffler cut off of them but that's what they can afford. I only know a single person under the age of 65+ that owns a corvette. And he's single with no kids and never married. Apparently that's what it takes to be able to afford a 100k car in your 30s or 40s. I'm 46 now. And as much as I used to like hot rods and muscle cars getting in and out of something that close to the ground is for the birds. That's a young man's game. And a game he has been priced out of for at least the last 2 decades.
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Post by meateater on Aug 29, 2024 12:53:23 GMT -5
The Necks are going to be all up in arms over this. Good Ol Roundy Round racing crosses over to the immigrants/illegals homeland. lots of hardcore nascar fans left when nascar started telling them no buses,no uhauls,no vans,in the infield. no coolers allowed inside so you couldnt bring your own beer or food. then they called more of there fans racists, had drivers push bubba smollets car around the track , most of todays drivers are just boring crybabies trying to get nascar to stop racing at super speedways because its too dangerous. nascar sucks and its nascars fault, not age or gender. the florida marlins screwed over the fans and will never recover, same goes for nascar and im glad.
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Post by tampaspicer on Aug 29, 2024 13:01:22 GMT -5
The Necks are going to be all up in arms over this. Good Ol Roundy Round racing crosses over to the immigrants/illegals homeland. lots of hardcore nascar fans left when nascar started telling them no buses,no uhauls,no vans,in the infield. no coolers allowed inside so you couldnt bring your own beer or food. then they called more of there fans racists, had drivers push bubba smollets car around the track , most of todays drivers are just boring crybabies trying to get nascar to stop racing at super speedways because its too dangerous. nascar sucks and its nascars fault, not age or gender. the florida marlins screwed over the fans and will never recover, same goes for nascar and im glad. I haven't watched it or payed attention to it in 15-20 years. That's crazy they stopped all the infield fun. I've never went to a race but my uncle use to go with all his friends for the weekend in the rv. They always had some wild stories.
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Post by Reptile Dysfunction on Aug 29, 2024 13:17:31 GMT -5
Yes, NASCAR crapped on its core fan base.
Change the channel over to IMSA and don't look back. Best racing on the planet. The LMPh and GT3 cars are the hottest cars on earth with the exception of F1.
And, Brian France owns IMSA and appears to be a much better business man than his brother. He's got it figured out.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 29, 2024 13:21:52 GMT -5
lots of hardcore nascar fans left when nascar started telling them no buses,no uhauls,no vans,in the infield. no coolers allowed inside so you couldnt bring your own beer or food. then they called more of there fans racists, had drivers push bubba smollets car around the track , most of todays drivers are just boring crybabies trying to get nascar to stop racing at super speedways because its too dangerous. nascar sucks and its nascars fault, not age or gender. the florida marlins screwed over the fans and will never recover, same goes for nascar and im glad. I haven't watched it or payed attention to it in 15-20 years. That's crazy they stopped all the infield fun. I've never went to a race but my uncle use to go with all his friends for the weekend in the rv. They always had some wild stories. It's true. All of it. I used to have a pretty nice Nikon. My dad found a stash of my Dega pictures in an old drawer and called me and told me he'd appreciate me not leaving stuff like the around his house for.my.mom to find. Hell I was just glad she didn't find them and call.my wife. 😁
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