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Post by cyclist on Aug 11, 2024 10:46:27 GMT -5
Its not your normal but who are you to judge whats normal for others?
Why can't the magaa douchebags just leave other people alone?
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Post by toldya on Aug 11, 2024 10:46:34 GMT -5
Imagine the outrage if Biden proclaimed he was going to hire more left handed people . More people would see how stupid that would be, although there may not be anything illegal about it. Compare that to Biden hiring someone because of their homosexuality, their gender or race. It's crazy times when the left has gone so far that all they can concentrate on is winning while not caring who they use to do so.
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Post by toldya on Aug 11, 2024 10:47:41 GMT -5
Its not your normal but who are you to judge whats normal for others? Why can't the magaa douchebags just leave other people alone? You're slipping.
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Post by cadman on Aug 11, 2024 15:06:36 GMT -5
That's a ridiculous comparison, Cad See Kemper's reply for why it is not. The same backward thinking prejudice that forced left handed people be right handed or be branded evil, abnormal, perverts, etc. is the same backward thinking prejudice that thinks Homosexuals are not normal and wants to force them to be heterosexual. Just a different time and society. In 50 years, nobody will give a damn if your gay and it will be accepted as the old prejudices fade away.
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Post by One Man Gang on Aug 11, 2024 15:11:49 GMT -5
Oh just stop it, Cad. You're not dealing with 5th graders here.
Homosexuality will only be "accepted" as normal because good and moral men will no longer be allowed to speak out against such things. Those men will be the ones who will be forced into silence, for their beliefs rather than their actions. All while weirdos and weirdness become the accepted norm.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 11, 2024 15:18:57 GMT -5
Homosexuality is not a normal thing and it is no different in the sense of other abnormal things a person may be born with. Avoiding that causes many problems. The left will seize an any opportunity to get people on their side and not worry about the consequences of doing so. Yet the same scripture used to condemn homosexuality also condems Adultery, Idolatry, and Fornication. Yet nobody harps on their buddy cheating on his wife. Or their buddy living with his girlfriend. Why is one so bad but the others get a pass or at least a blind eye? When according to scripture all are serious and gross sin. I'm not here to say there is nothing wrong with it. I just don't understand the selective hatred towards one. I tend to look at homosexuals like anything else. I don't understand it. I can't fathom looking at a man and think that's how! But it really has no bearing on me or my life so I don't spend a lot of time hating it or being phobic about it. While I wouldn't go out of my way to accommodate them I wouldt treat a gay person any less or with less respect than I would any other person. I also believe that people who rant and rave against it or anything else are usually hiding and suppressing something I side themselves that they hate. I've seen it too many times. Homos have been with us pretty much since the beginning. The ancient Greeks and Roman's were slam full of gays.
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Post by One Man Gang on Aug 11, 2024 15:19:41 GMT -5
Look, most of us could care less if you closet dwellers or openly gay boys want a set of hairy nuts from another man dragging across your body, but stop trying to tell the rest of us it's normal behavior, because it's simply not. Have at it.
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Post by walkerdog on Aug 11, 2024 15:32:02 GMT -5
That's a ridiculous comparison, Cad See Kemper's reply for why it is not. The same backward thinking prejudice that forced left handed people be right handed or be branded evil, abnormal, perverts, etc. is the same backward thinking prejudice that thinks Homosexuals are not normal and wants to force them to be heterosexual. Just a different time and society. In 50 years, nobody will give a damn if your gay and it will be accepted as the old prejudices fade away. Recognizing that something is abnormal is not the same as being prejudiced, except in the minds of people like yourself. I don’t care if someone wants to be gay or any other letter in the alphabet soup they like to call themselves. Knock yourself out, if that’s what you want. Just don’t force the rest of society to “normailze” your choice or to make special accommodations for you.
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Post by toldya on Aug 11, 2024 16:57:31 GMT -5
See Kemper's reply for why it is not. The same backward thinking prejudice that forced left handed people be right handed or be branded evil, abnormal, perverts, etc. is the same backward thinking prejudice that thinks Homosexuals are not normal and wants to force them to be heterosexual. Just a different time and society. In 50 years, nobody will give a damn if your gay and it will be accepted as the old prejudices fade away. Recognizing that something is abnormal is not the same as being prejudiced, except in the minds of people like yourself. I don’t care if someone wants to be gay or any other letter in the alphabet soup they like to call themselves. Knock yourself out, if that’s what you want. Just don’t force the rest of society to “normailze” your choice or to make special accommodations for you. Exactly. It is not normal and no one should pretend it is .
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Post by toldya on Aug 11, 2024 17:00:11 GMT -5
That's a ridiculous comparison, Cad See Kemper's reply for why it is not. The same backward thinking prejudice that forced left handed people be right handed or be branded evil, abnormal, perverts, etc. is the same backward thinking prejudice that thinks Homosexuals are not normal and wants to force them to be heterosexual. Just a different time and society. In 50 years, nobody will give a damn if your gay and it will be accepted as the old prejudices fade away. It's not backward thinking. The are not normal, it's as simple as that.
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Post by bswiv on Aug 11, 2024 17:18:38 GMT -5
Up until the early 1900s, left handed people were considered abnormal, evil, perverted, and a host of other nasty things at the time. Society eventually grew out of their primitive misguided superstitions, fears, and prejudice and realized left handed people were just like right handed people. There was no difference and it wasn't abnormal to be left handed. Now change left hand for homosexuals in the above paragraph and understand where your point of view comes from. That's not true. It is still not normal to be left handed. I don't see it being a problem, but it's not normal just because people aren't concerned with it. Actually........just as with the odd plant that will flower very early or very late, or throw off a unusual color, or maybe even a slightly different scent that insects can key on.....or even one that produces seeds that that longer, or germinate faster......it's all nature being prepared for options that might help with the survival of the species. With humans, where survival of the species is dependent on far more than just the immediate offspring but also on the supporting social environment, a situation that means even those who do not reproduce can be and are, because of their different talents or abilities that might help the WHOLE troop/clan/tribe survive in some unexpected situation are necessary to the survival of the species. From that we are left to consider the value of all...... Mind you........you don't have to like or find attractive or any of the other things the hard left says we must do.......because they love power and will use force as surely as anyone.......but we are best served by being polite and considering that some aspect of what the hard left detests as a natural part of the evolved human fits the same principle. I could go on.......but.....the ceviche is ready..............
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Post by walkerdog on Aug 11, 2024 18:38:34 GMT -5
What you’re basically saying is that having abnormalities within a population is normal (i.e. natural) and can produce benefits to the population.
Thats logic that I can agree with.
It’s a much different message though from that of those who are trying to normalize an abnormality rather than just accepting and acknowledging it for what it is.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 11, 2024 22:43:58 GMT -5
People need to stop trying to force the idea that homosexuality is normal upon the rest of the population.
It’s not normal and no amount of propaganda will ever make it normal
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Post by Tarponator on Aug 12, 2024 1:26:52 GMT -5
It's not abnormal (except by selective, antiquated moral standards), nobody is forcing anything, and you can (as you guys love to say) fuck your feelings as the world passes you by.
Go yell at the kids on your lawn or something.
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Post by bswiv on Aug 12, 2024 4:21:18 GMT -5
What you’re basically saying is that having abnormalities within a population is normal (i.e. natural) and can produce benefits to the population. Thats logic that I can agree with. It’s a much different message though from that of those who are trying to normalize an abnormality rather than just accepting and acknowledging it for what it is. We're on the same page.........though, as words carry charges, two of them meaning basically the same thing often eliciting vastly different responses......using "variation" is probably less triggering than abnormalities. Of course, there are abnormalities, genetic variations, that are so far from the midline as to render the carrier of that variation unable to survive. But even there, the social construct gets mixed in as technology advances. One example being that the left......and much of the right.....is now onboard with using early genetic testing for Downs syndrome and then aborting based on that. Look up what happens in Iceland. I copied in one of the latest piece on it. Haven't read this one so taking a risk.....but....plenty more out there. www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-01/iceland-prenatal-testing-down-syndrome-ethics/103781058There is a very slippery slope in view with where this could go as the ability to genetically test for things advances.
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