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Post by throttle on Jul 17, 2024 10:49:57 GMT -5
This was definitely amateur hour for the secret service. There is no explanation for their dramatic lapse in basic security competence. They've been doing this for a while you know. Specifically there's no explanation for leaving Trump on the podium if there was even a hint of a threat, and there was. And there's no explanation for the counter sniper team holding their fire after they had the sniper in their sights. Please give me a plausible explanation for those facts. I'm listening...
As far as the mouth breather, an expendable assassin is exactly what they would need so they could blame the dead guy who can't talk.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 17, 2024 11:14:00 GMT -5
This was definitely amateur hour for the secret service. There is no explanation for their dramatic lapse in basic security competence. They've been doing this for a while you know. Specifically there's no explanation for leaving Trump on the podium if there was even a hint of a threat, and there was. And there's no explanation for the counter sniper team holding their fire after they had the sniper in their sights. Please give me a plausible explanation for those facts. I'm listening... As far as the mouth breather, an expendable assassin is exactly what they would need so they could blame the dead guy who can't talk. I just finished reading a book about the a secret service agent around the Kennedy era. They were consummate professionals that took their job seriously and were devastated by the Kennedy debacle and really upped their game afterwards.
They certainly did not seem to have a that place secure or even remotely so...heads are gonna role. Conspiracy? Meh....
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Post by cadman on Jul 17, 2024 12:17:32 GMT -5
This was definitely amateur hour for the secret service. There is no explanation for their dramatic lapse in basic security competence. They've been doing this for a while you know. Specifically there's no explanation for leaving Trump on the podium if there was even a hint of a threat, and there was. And there's no explanation for the counter sniper team holding their fire after they had the sniper in their sights. Please give me a plausible explanation for those facts. I'm listening... As far as the mouth breather, an expendable assassin is exactly what they would need so they could blame the dead guy who can't talk. How do you know the sniper team had him in their sights? Please tell where you got that "fact". Internet forum rumors are not facts. There was a news story the Crooks approached the metal detectors with the range finder and the sniper had him in his sights checking him out, but there was no weapon or threat at that time. They can't just shoot every strange or suspicious person. There would be a lot of dead bodies if they did. I think a lot of facts are getting mixed with fiction. As far as Trump on stage once a suspicious person was seen. That is an answer we need. Even considering the 90 seconds as the shortest time, it seems they would have hit the stage and surrounded him once the call was made, if a call was made. I am sure the congressional hearing will give us more details on that. We will have to wait for some answers and maybe some real facts instead of social media rumors. The problem with an amateur mouth breather is, what if he got caught instead of killed? There is no way any group, whether it be Iranians or someone else is going to use a 20 year old amateur to do this. This nut acted on his own for his own crazy reasons.
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Post by olmucky on Jul 17, 2024 13:16:11 GMT -5
I've really tried to bite my tongue the last few days until more details are known. I however figure enough time has gone by so I'll toss a real wrench in the cogs. Let's suppose for a minute the democrats (the power behind the curtain folks) actually planned this false flag. Get some loser Incel patsy to enact their plan. Now they know Trump's gonna be covered and it's pretty much a suicide mission. They tell him that his sacrifice is gonna save the Republic. Being a young easily manipulated Republican he goes along with for peomise his mom and dad will be taken care of. Or a large donation is made to the kitty cat care center or whatever. So if he succeeded or not the plan is put into motion. Now they know that the Trumpers are more than likely gonna respond in kind. Biden won't step down so they set it all up hoping that Trump is eliminated but if not surely a Trumper will knock off Biden. If it works they are rid of Trump and Biden. If it fails then they wait patiently for some looney wingbut to off Biden. They appoint their pick. Boom 5D Chess. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 He did donate to the Progressive Turnout Project, a PAC that aims to get Democrats to vote Other than that you’re theory is good as any
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 17, 2024 13:18:18 GMT -5
I've really tried to bite my tongue the last few days until more details are known. I however figure enough time has gone by so I'll toss a real wrench in the cogs. Let's suppose for a minute the democrats (the power behind the curtain folks) actually planned this false flag. Get some loser Incel patsy to enact their plan. Now they know Trump's gonna be covered and it's pretty much a suicide mission. They tell him that his sacrifice is gonna save the Republic. Being a young easily manipulated Republican he goes along with for peomise his mom and dad will be taken care of. Or a large donation is made to the kitty cat care center or whatever. So if he succeeded or not the plan is put into motion. Now they know that the Trumpers are more than likely gonna respond in kind. Biden won't step down so they set it all up hoping that Trump is eliminated but if not surely a Trumper will knock off Biden. If it works they are rid of Trump and Biden. If it fails then they wait patiently for some looney wingbut to off Biden. They appoint their pick. Boom 5D Chess. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 He did donate to the Progressive Turnout Project, a PAC that aims to get Democrats to vote Other than that you’re theory is good as any
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Post by cyclist on Jul 17, 2024 13:19:16 GMT -5
I've really tried to bite my tongue the last few days until more details are known. I however figure enough time has gone by so I'll toss a real wrench in the cogs. Let's suppose for a minute the democrats (the power behind the curtain folks) actually planned this false flag. Get some loser Incel patsy to enact their plan. Now they know Trump's gonna be covered and it's pretty much a suicide mission. They tell him that his sacrifice is gonna save the Republic. Being a young easily manipulated Republican he goes along with for peomise his mom and dad will be taken care of. Or a large donation is made to the kitty cat care center or whatever. So if he succeeded or not the plan is put into motion. Now they know that the Trumpers are more than likely gonna respond in kind. Biden won't step down so they set it all up hoping that Trump is eliminated but if not surely a Trumper will knock off Biden. If it works they are rid of Trump and Biden. If it fails then they wait patiently for some looney wingbut to off Biden. They appoint their pick. Boom 5D Chess. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 He did donate to the Progressive Turnout Project, a PAC that aims to get Democrats to vote Other than that you’re theory is good as any 15$, I would hardly call that a hearty endorsement or the actions of a radical, plus it was years ago. Who knows?
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Post by oldbastard on Jul 17, 2024 13:36:39 GMT -5
It looks like they intentionally let the shooter get a position to make a shot, take the shot(s) before killing him so yeah, it looks like a conspiracy. That's exactly my thoughts
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 17, 2024 13:57:21 GMT -5
It looks like they intentionally let the shooter get a position to make a shot, take the shot(s) before killing him so yeah, it looks like a conspiracy. That's exactly my thoughts Something just isn’t right about the whole thing
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Post by gardawg on Jul 17, 2024 13:58:31 GMT -5
Well one thing you can take to the bank ... I damn sure ain't gonna go to any political rallies anytime soon.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 17, 2024 14:17:13 GMT -5
Well one thing you can take to the bank ... I damn sure ain't gonna go to any political rallies anytime soon. I never had any intentions of doing so. I sure as hell ain't wasting a day off or using vaca to go see a politician lie to me. Ain't giving them my money either. Don't put their stickers on anything or buy their merchandise. If I hire a plumber I don't advertise his company for him. If I buy a vehicle I make the dealer remove any reference from them from the vehicle. So why in the hell would I do so for a politician I hired?
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 17, 2024 16:46:15 GMT -5
Well one thing you can take to the bank ... I damn sure ain't gonna go to any political rallies anytime soon. I never had any intentions of doing so. I sure as hell ain't wasting a day off or using vaca to go see a politician lie to me. Ain't giving them my money either. Don't put their stickers on anything or buy their merchandise. If I hire a plumber I don't advertise his company for him. If I buy a vehicle I make the dealer remove any reference from them from the vehicle. So why in the hell would I do so for a politician I hired? I completely agree. I just jumped 26 inches into a guys ass for stapling a political banner on my fence and erecting a sign in my swale last week... for a candidate I like! Poor bastard insisted their campaign had the right address and had permission to do advertise. I told him I'm countermanding that decision and unless they were willing to pay me a handsome sum to advertise to get that shit off my fence.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 17, 2024 17:53:43 GMT -5
I never had any intentions of doing so. I sure as hell ain't wasting a day off or using vaca to go see a politician lie to me. Ain't giving them my money either. Don't put their stickers on anything or buy their merchandise. If I hire a plumber I don't advertise his company for him. If I buy a vehicle I make the dealer remove any reference from them from the vehicle. So why in the hell would I do so for a politician I hired? I completely agree. I just jumped 26 inches into a guys ass for stapling a political banner on my fence and erecting a sign in my swale last week... for a candidate I like! Poor bastard insisted their campaign had the right address and had permission to do advertise. I told him I'm countermanding that decision and unless they were willing to pay me a handsome sum to advertise to get that shit off my fence. The nerve
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Post by cadman on Jul 17, 2024 18:17:00 GMT -5
I never had any intentions of doing so. I sure as hell ain't wasting a day off or using vaca to go see a politician lie to me. Ain't giving them my money either. Don't put their stickers on anything or buy their merchandise. If I hire a plumber I don't advertise his company for him. If I buy a vehicle I make the dealer remove any reference from them from the vehicle. So why in the hell would I do so for a politician I hired? I completely agree. I just jumped 26 inches into a guys ass for stapling a political banner on my fence and erecting a sign in my swale last week... for a candidate I like! Poor bastard insisted their campaign had the right address and had permission to do advertise. I told him I'm countermanding that decision and unless they were willing to pay me a handsome sum to advertise to get that shit off my fence. Did you hit his G-spot?
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Post by throttle on Jul 17, 2024 18:39:58 GMT -5
This was definitely amateur hour for the secret service. There is no explanation for their dramatic lapse in basic security competence. They've been doing this for a while you know. Specifically there's no explanation for leaving Trump on the podium if there was even a hint of a threat, and there was. And there's no explanation for the counter sniper team holding their fire after they had the sniper in their sights. Please give me a plausible explanation for those facts. I'm listening... As far as the mouth breather, an expendable assassin is exactly what they would need so they could blame the dead guy who can't talk. How do you know the sniper team had him in their sights? Please tell where you got that "fact". Internet forum rumors are not facts. There was a news story the Crooks approached the metal detectors with the range finder and the sniper had him in his sights checking him out, but there was no weapon or threat at that time. They can't just shoot every strange or suspicious person. There would be a lot of dead bodies if they did. I think a lot of facts are getting mixed with fiction. As far as Trump on stage once a suspicious person was seen. That is an answer we need. Even considering the 90 seconds as the shortest time, it seems they would have hit the stage and surrounded him once the call was made, if a call was made. I am sure the congressional hearing will give us more details on that. We will have to wait for some answers and maybe some real facts instead of social media rumors. The problem with an amateur mouth breather is, what if he got caught instead of killed? There is no way any group, whether it be Iranians or someone else is going to use a 20 year old amateur to do this. This nut acted on his own for his own crazy reasons. That was a bunch of distraction/deflection/attempted thread derailment... who said anything about metal detectors and rangefinders? And, BTW, the counter sniper team has binoculars so they don't have to "scope" people to surveille them. I know the counter sniper had the shooter in his sights yet held his shot because that's what the video shows, and I believe my eyes. And law enforcement was reportedly aware there was a suspicious lurker for more than a half hour before the shooting, and yet they let Trump go on stage. And now ABC news is reporting that "secret service snipers spotted the shooter 20 minutes before he opened fire."
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Post by cadman on Jul 17, 2024 18:49:46 GMT -5
You are positive that is the sniper who shot him and that was where he was aiming? Also, when the first shot is fired, that sniper's rifle changes position and is aimed more downward than it was before the shots.
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