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Post by cadman on Jul 14, 2024 13:50:03 GMT -5
Reports are stabilizing that the assassin's parents are both psychologists. That appears to be confirmed. It is also being reported that both are registered Democrats. But I don't considered that fact to be established yet. So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 13:52:00 GMT -5
You were sure the shooter would turn out to be a leftist, trans, drag queen, Antifa, migrant, so now you're really reaching at straws instead of simply admitting you were wrong. You prove yourself intellectually dishonest yet again. I agree. Is it “likely” a leftist? I’d put my money on it. But nothing is known yet. Lets see what happens. There’s plenty of people on both sides who hate Trump. And crazy people cross all lines. I am also concerned that he’s more hurt than he seems. He may have took a small caliber hit to the body. You value trying to win an argument over being honest almost every time. And the kid may yet prove to be a Leftist after all. We don’t yet know if he’s always been registered as a Republican, whether he recently changed it, or whether he registered as a Republican just to vote against Trump in the primary. He did contribute to a Leftist group on Biden’s inauguration day. … or he may have been spiting his upper-class, likely liberal, psychologist parents by registering opposite of them. But the Leftist-murderous-hate for Trump was obviously there, as evidenced by the attempted murder. This you? "Be a man and admit the wrongs and excesses of your side. Admit first, it is YOUR side and not some strange parties you distance yourself from. And second, admit that YOUR side has been seriously wrong for advocating violent hate against Republicans."
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 14, 2024 13:55:36 GMT -5
I just came on the forum, 1st time since yesterday afternoon. This thread is a perfect example of everything that's wrong with America these days. A lot of b.s. speculation, accusatory finger-pointing, and outright hatred of those who disagree with us. Go back and read the first pages for the nonsense regarding what happened, further to see the accusations on both sides. What a bunch of crap! Lots of wadded panties on both sides. Unfortunately, exactly what I expected.
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Post by richm on Jul 14, 2024 13:57:23 GMT -5
Reports are stabilizing that the assassin's parents are both psychologists. That appears to be confirmed. It is also being reported that both are registered Democrats. But I don't considered that fact to be established yet. So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. But it does matter what his leanings are.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 14, 2024 13:57:28 GMT -5
You prove yourself intellectually dishonest yet again. You value trying to win an argument over being honest almost every time. And the kid may yet prove to be a Leftist after all. We don’t yet know if he’s always been registered as a Republican, whether he recently changed it, or whether he registered as a Republican just to vote against Trump in the primary. He did contribute to a Leftist group on Biden’s inauguration day. … or he may have been spiting his upper-class, likely liberal, psychologist parents by registering opposite of them. But the Leftist-murderous-hate for Trump was obviously there, as evidenced by the attempted murder. This you? "Be a man and admit the wrongs and excesses of your side. Admit first, it is YOUR side and not some strange parties you distance yourself from. And second, admit that YOUR side has been seriously wrong for advocating violent hate against Republicans."That’s still 100% true. What other rhetoric is out there in the mainstream that would have radicalized this kid and lead him to see the need to kill Trump?
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Post by richm on Jul 14, 2024 13:58:44 GMT -5
I went over to a huuting website and the infighting is not as obvious over there. Folks are calling for retribution and a civil war.
This place is pretty calm comparatively.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 13:59:07 GMT -5
This you? "Be a man and admit the wrongs and excesses of your side. Admit first, it is YOUR side and not some strange parties you distance yourself from. And second, admit that YOUR side has been seriously wrong for advocating violent hate against Republicans."That’s still 100% true. What other rhetoric is out there in the mainstream that would have radicalized this kid and lead him to see the need to kill Trump? Simply put, you seem to have a cognitive bias that blinds you to any malevolence from the right. I have always admitted that the left is not without fault, but after J6 the reality of that political dynamic in America today is crystal clear.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 14, 2024 14:01:08 GMT -5
Reports are stabilizing that the assassin's parents are both psychologists. That appears to be confirmed. It is also being reported that both are registered Democrats. But I don't considered that fact to be established yet. So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. What produced this 20 year old assassin is absolutely relevant. If he was truly crazy, how did two licensed psychologists 1) produce him and 2) fail to intercede before it got to this point? Do you feel good about 2 licensed psychologists, whose profession is to help the mentally ill or the mentally/emotionally struggling, producing and not subsequently identifying a Presidential assassin at 20 years old? The gun came from his father.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 14:03:54 GMT -5
So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. What produced this 20 year old assassin is absolutely relevant. If he was truly crazy, how did two licensed psychologists 1) produce him and 2) fail to intercede before it got to this point? Do you feel good about 2 licensed psychologists, whose profession is to help the mentally ill or the mentally/emotionally struggling, producing and not subsequently identifying a Presidential assassin at 20 years old? The gun came from his father. You absolve Alito of any responsibility for the actions of his wife in his own homes, yet you pin a murder on the parents of a radical gun nut?
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Post by cadman on Jul 14, 2024 14:05:19 GMT -5
So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. But it does matter what his leanings are. Why? Why does it matter what the crazy fool thought? He was fucking crazy.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 14, 2024 14:08:14 GMT -5
What produced this 20 year old assassin is absolutely relevant. If he was truly crazy, how did two licensed psychologists 1) produce him and 2) fail to intercede before it got to this point? Do you feel good about 2 licensed psychologists, whose profession is to help the mentally ill or the mentally/emotionally struggling, producing and not subsequently identifying a Presidential assassin at 20 years old? The gun came from his father. You absolve Alito of any responsibility for the actions of his wife in his own homes, yet you pin a murder on the parents of a murderous gun nut? Attempt at deflection denied. You’re becoming a parody of both partisan Leftists and also of yourself. I don’t see a reason to engage you further until you snap out of it.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 14:08:46 GMT -5
So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. What produced this 20 year old assassin is absolutely relevant. If he was truly crazy, how did two licensed psychologists 1) produce him and 2) fail to intercede before it got to this point? Do you feel good about 2 licensed psychologists, whose profession is to help the mentally ill or the mentally/emotionally struggling, producing and not subsequently identifying a Presidential assassin at 20 years old? The gun came from his father.
So it's not too soon to talk about gun availability in America today? Asking on behalf of Generation Lockdown.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 14:12:47 GMT -5
You absolve Alito of any responsibility for the actions of his wife in his own homes, yet you pin a murder on the parents of a murderous gun nut? Attempt at deflection denied. You’re becoming a parody of both partisan Leftists and also of yourself. I don’t see a reason to engage you further until you snap out of it. Look man, I freely admit that the left has done wrong, it is you, and your inability to assign any culpability for any harms to the right, that makes both our positions clear.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 14, 2024 14:18:09 GMT -5
View AttachmentThe bullet is the silver streak to our right (Trump’s left). It looks like a long rod. Can u have a News photographer taken regular pictures have a camera that is high tech to pick up an AR 15 .223 bullet that exits the nozzle at 3,000 ft per sec that converts to 2,250 miles a hr only traveling 300 to 400 ft if it drops to 2,000 mph nearly 3 times the speed of sound is anybody a camera buff?
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 14:21:44 GMT -5
View AttachmentThe bullet is the silver streak to our right (Trump’s left). It looks like a long rod. Can u have a News photographer taken regular pictures have a camera that is high tech to pick up an AR 15 .223 bullet that exits the nozzle at 3,000 ft per sec that converts to 2,250 miles a hr only traveling 300 to 400 ft if it drops to 2,000 mph nearly 3 times the speed of sound is anybody a camera buff? Guessing they were probably using a very fast shutter speed and in burst mode, and got very lucky. That shot may buy them a house.
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