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Post by garycoleco on Jul 10, 2024 20:22:40 GMT -5
To knowingly/criminally risk thousands of lives and kill 346 people. Then get fined less than Trump and Alex Jones..... Where's the law and order?
Boeing has agreed to plead guilty to a criminal fraud conspiracy charge after the US found the company violated a deal meant to reform it after two fatal crashes by its 737 Max planes that killed 346 passengers and crew. The Department of Justice (DoJ) said the plane-maker had also agreed to pay a criminal fine of $243.6m. However, the families of the people who died on the flights five years ago have criticised it as a "sweetheart deal" that would allow Boeing to avoid full responsibility for the deaths. One called it an "atrocious abomination". The settlement must now be approved by a US judge. By pleading guilty, Boeing will avoid the spectacle of a criminal trial - something that victims' families have been pressing for. The company has been in crisis over its safety record since two near-identical crashes involving 737 Max aircraft in 2018 and 2019. It led to the global grounding of the plane for more than a year. In 2021, prosecutors charged Boeing with one count of conspiracy to defraud regulators, alleging it had deceived the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) about its MCAS flight control system, which was implicated in both crashes. It agreed not to prosecute Boeing if the company paid a penalty and successfully completed a three-year period of increased monitoring and reporting. But in January, shortly before that period was due to end, a door panel in a Boeing plane operated by Alaska Airlines blew out soon after take-off and forced the jet to land. No-one was injured during the incident but it intensified scrutiny over how much progress Boeing had made on improving its safety and quality record. In May, the DoJ said it had found Boeing had violated the terms of the agreement, opening up the possibility of prosecution
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 10, 2024 20:27:35 GMT -5
Maybe Trump and Jones should have negotiated a plea.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 10, 2024 20:28:54 GMT -5
Do you often compare negotiated criminal penalties with adjudicated civil liability, or do you save that for postulating partisan false equivalencies?
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 10, 2024 20:29:28 GMT -5
Less government regulation and screw the FAA and their rule making authority. Am I right?
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Post by cadman on Jul 10, 2024 20:33:21 GMT -5
I think it is a sweetheart deal.
A criminal trial could have opened them up to larger lawsuit settlements. This probably saved them billions.
That is why you take plea deals though and not fight losing cases.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 10, 2024 22:44:25 GMT -5
Deep pockets buy political power and influence
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 10, 2024 23:58:43 GMT -5
Less government regulation and screw the FAA and their rule making authority. Am I right? John Robert’s and Justice Jackson should determine the torque specs on a 737 hatch door.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 11, 2024 6:50:13 GMT -5
So glad! I can always count on the legal eagles...
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 11, 2024 6:54:20 GMT -5
Less government bribes by big companies accepted by elected officials would pave the way for correct legislation and inspections to be put in place to protect the public against corruption and the bribery
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 11, 2024 6:54:49 GMT -5
Less government bribes by big companies accepted by elected officials would pave the way for correct legislation and inspections to be put in place to protect the public against corruption and the the bribery
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Post by johngalt on Jul 11, 2024 8:55:23 GMT -5
Boeings problems started 20+ years ago. They like a lot of publicly traded companies decided that their stockholders were more important than their customers. Their boardroom went from engineers and aircraft builders to pencil pushers and stock brokers. They even moved their headquarters from Everitt Washington to Chicago. Decided it would be cheaper and more profitable to contract out a lot of their component manufacturing. Then the final nail in the coffin was the purchase of McDonald Douglas so they could be big dogs in the defense industry. Boeing has a lot of repairing to do. Hopefully getting rid of the executives at the top for starters and hiring people who know the difference between a spar and an aileron. And yes I do own a little over a couple thousand shares of Boeing and have for over thirty years. So yes, I am pissed. đŸ˜¡
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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 11, 2024 9:03:48 GMT -5
No doubt the company has already made provisions in their financials for the resulting Civil damages.
The parallel question is the extent of their insurance coverage, and whether the re-insurers will play ball.
In the end, it will be all nice and tidy ... the corporate solution to a mass grave.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 11, 2024 9:29:26 GMT -5
Less government bribes by big companies accepted by elected officials would pave the way for correct legislation and inspections to be put in place to protect the public against corruption and the bribery But Alex Jones said mean things...
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 11, 2024 11:04:59 GMT -5
Alex Jones ruined the lives of grieving parents, that fat fuck has a special place in hell reserved.
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Post by meateater on Jul 11, 2024 12:41:13 GMT -5
i learned a valuable lesson with this case, if you wanna be a whistleblower dont do it if our government is connected in any way. snitches get stitches,,, or a bullet in the temple while sitting in your truck enjoying a sandwich and listening to keith whitley on your lunch break.
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