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Post by cadman on Jul 6, 2024 7:24:48 GMT -5
I was wanting to know if there are any Dems you would vote for today .
Of the names being tossed about to replace Biden:
Manchin (if he's considered a Dem) Shapiro Pritzker Whitmer Beshear
Recent polling shows Michelle Obama is the only Democrat with a chance to beat Trump.
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Post by olmucky on Jul 6, 2024 7:38:59 GMT -5
Name a Democrat that you would vote for, if any.
I voted for Crist.
What party was he when you voted for him (hard to keep track of him)
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Post by olmucky on Jul 6, 2024 7:39:56 GMT -5
Of the names being tossed about to replace Biden:
Manchin (if he's considered a Dem) Shapiro Pritzker Whitmer Beshear
Recent polling shows Michelle Obama is the only Democrat with a chance to beat Trump. Biden said with Stephanopoulos that everyone is wrong his polls show he’s the leading candidate
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Post by cadman on Jul 6, 2024 8:11:24 GMT -5
Recent polling shows Michelle Obama is the only Democrat with a chance to beat Trump. Biden said with Stephanopoulos that everyone is wrong his polls show he’s the leading candidate He and Trump do the same thing with polls, they grab the one outlier and use it to support their claims. There is a poll showing biden winning the election by 2 points and there is a poll showing Trump leading by 9 points. But the average and most polls show Trump leading by 3 or 4 points. That is 2 points higher than before the debate. I just saw on the ABC interview and Biden called it a toss up and looking at the margin or error, he could be correct in the general election. But looking at the 5 battleground states, Biden is losing the election. In some Trump's lead is within the margin or error, but when 95% of polls show Trump winning by 3 to 6 points, i don't see a path for Biden to win. But I thought Hillary had the election won in 2016 at this point. Her poll numbers didn't collapse until the end of October, so you never can tell. As I said in another post, I think the big question may be how this affects the down ticket elections. Both houses have close races coming up, Biden could hurt a few democrats further down on the ballot. I still think Biden needs to have a health issue and step aside. If the Dems could talk Michelle Obama into running, Barack Obama might be the one guy who could convince Biden to step down and give his support to her. Then if Barack comes out and campaigns heavy for Michelle, she could upset Trump's plan. If Trump is going to win, i would like to see the dems control either the Senate or the House to have some balance. Same would be true if a Dem wins the Presidency. I prefer any candidate other than Trump or Biden.
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Post by misterjr on Jul 6, 2024 8:37:43 GMT -5
Biden said with Stephanopoulos that everyone is wrong his polls show he’s the leading candidate He and Trump do the same thing with polls, they grab the one outlier and use it to support their claims. There is a poll showing biden winning the election by 2 points and there is a poll showing Trump leading by 9 points. But the average and most polls show Trump leading by 3 or 4 points. That is 2 points higher than before the debate. I just saw on the ABC interview and Biden called it a toss up and looking at the margin or error, he could be correct in the general election. But looking at the 5 battleground states, Biden is losing the election. In some Trump's lead is within the margin or error, but when 95% of polls show Trump winning by 3 to 6 points, i don't see a path for Biden to win. But I thought Hillary had the election won in 2016 at this point. Her poll numbers didn't collapse until the end of October, so you never can tell. As I said in another post, I think the big question may be how this affects the down ticket elections. Both houses have close races coming up, Biden could hurt a few democrats further down on the ballot. I still think Biden needs to have a health issue and step aside. If the Dems could talk Michelle Obama into running, Barack Obama might be the one guy who could convince Biden to step down and give his support to her. Then if Barack comes out and campaigns heavy for Michelle, she could upset Trump's plan. If Trump is going to win, i would like to see the dems control either the Senate or the House to have some balance. Same would be true if a Dem wins the Presidency. I prefer any candidate other than Trump or Biden.
I agree
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Post by toldya on Jul 6, 2024 8:51:43 GMT -5
Don't know why anyone would not support Trump when you look at the great job he did as President . But, unfortunately a lot of people will not vote for what is the best option overall. They will use their vote as an outlet for their hate or in support of a single issue .
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Post by OhMy on Jul 6, 2024 11:53:18 GMT -5
He and Trump do the same thing with polls, they grab the one outlier and use it to support their claims. There is a poll showing biden winning the election by 2 points and there is a poll showing Trump leading by 9 points. But the average and most polls show Trump leading by 3 or 4 points. That is 2 points higher than before the debate. I just saw on the ABC interview and Biden called it a toss up and looking at the margin or error, he could be correct in the general election. But looking at the 5 battleground states, Biden is losing the election. In some Trump's lead is within the margin or error, but when 95% of polls show Trump winning by 3 to 6 points, i don't see a path for Biden to win. But I thought Hillary had the election won in 2016 at this point. Her poll numbers didn't collapse until the end of October, so you never can tell. As I said in another post, I think the big question may be how this affects the down ticket elections. Both houses have close races coming up, Biden could hurt a few democrats further down on the ballot. I still think Biden needs to have a health issue and step aside. If the Dems could talk Michelle Obama into running, Barack Obama might be the one guy who could convince Biden to step down and give his support to her. Then if Barack comes out and campaigns heavy for Michelle, she could upset Trump's plan. If Trump is going to win, i would like to see the dems control either the Senate or the House to have some balance. Same would be true if a Dem wins the Presidency. I prefer any candidate other than Trump or Biden.
I agree @cad, Can you facetime with Mister's wife and show her how to properly respond to a forum post? Maybe she can hand hold him with the process until he gets it right.
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Post by misterjr on Jul 6, 2024 12:00:23 GMT -5
I don't sweat the little stuff.....
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Post by OhMy on Jul 6, 2024 12:14:20 GMT -5
I don't sweat the little stuff..... I know... It is tough to teach an old dog new tricks. 1:15 PM. Have you had your cookies and milk yet?
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Post by toldya on Jul 6, 2024 12:28:49 GMT -5
I don't sweat the little stuff..... Get your mind back on topic. We don't need to know that personal shit .
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Post by misterjr on Jul 6, 2024 12:51:26 GMT -5
I don't sweat the little stuff..... Get your mind back on topic. We don't need to know that personal shit . I don't take orders from you, either.
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