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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 3, 2024 13:11:11 GMT -5
Life begins at conception. To end this life is indeed a murder.
Stop conceptions via birth control and the murder of the innocent unborn children will end.
It’s that simple.
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Post by cadman on Jul 3, 2024 13:30:25 GMT -5
Life begins at conception. To end this life is indeed a murder. Stop conceptions via birth control and the murder of the innocent unborn children will end. It’s that simple. All you need is for the Supreme Court to confirm that legally. Of course there would be other minor issues to deal with. Like they would be a tax deduction for the parents at conception. Everyone would reach full retirement 9 months earlier and Social Security would owe me and a few million other retirees additional social security. Medicare would be 9 months earlier, You could vote and drink 9 months earlier. If you are a living human being at conception, you would be a year old 3 months after you are born. Might be one of the reasons the courts have avoided the issue of saying when life begins.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 3, 2024 13:38:10 GMT -5
I don’t need to confirm anything “legally”.
Any good person realizes that MORALLY it is murder to end the life of an unborn child.
It’s time to take responsibility for our actions. Abortion as a convenience is murder.
There are too many birth control methods available that will prevent conception.
We need to stop killing the unborn due to people being too lazy to use birth control methods.
Stop unwanted conception. Do not abort unwanted life after it has begun.
Do not end a child’s life for convenience. Stop the insanity.
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Post by cadman on Jul 3, 2024 13:49:57 GMT -5
I don’t need to confirm anything “legally”. Any good person realizes that MORALLY it is murder to end the life of an unborn child. It’s time to take responsibility for our actions. Abortion as a convenience is murder. There are too many birth control methods available that will prevent conception. We need to stop killing the unborn due to people being too lazy to use birth control methods. Stop unwanted conception. Do not abort unwanted life after it has begun. Do not end a child’s life for convenience. Stop the insanity. Since others do not agree with your philosophy on when life begins, abortions will continue until the Supreme Court makes a ruling human life begins at conception and all rights granted a living human being begins at that point. You may believe whatever you wish, but since others disagree, abortions will continue. Ranting about it in a fishing forum won't change anything.
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Post by toldya on Jul 3, 2024 13:52:52 GMT -5
When does it become a child ? You would have to know that to know when it isn't . That is the question the Supreme Court needs to answer to settle the issue. When does the zygote, embryo, fetus, become a human being with all the legal rights a human being has. They answer that and when an abortion can be performed legally would be solved. So until then it would probably be best to be anti-abortion as not to be a participant in what might be considered murder from a legal standpoint.
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Post by cadman on Jul 3, 2024 14:02:04 GMT -5
That is the question the Supreme Court needs to answer to settle the issue. When does the zygote, embryo, fetus, become a human being with all the legal rights a human being has. They answer that and when an abortion can be performed legally would be solved. So until then it would probably be best to be anti-abortion as not to be a participant in what might be considered murder from a legal standpoint. Not really since abortion is legal and is not murder. If the law changes it will not affect anything before that date.
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Post by meateater on Jul 3, 2024 14:37:00 GMT -5
it can be performed up to 13 weeks. only the mothers health can change that time frame of 13 weeks. there now its settled. whats next.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 3, 2024 15:45:41 GMT -5
What does Jewish Law have to say about the issue, and how does it differ from that of those that want to force children to carry a rapist's baby to term, and then share custody with them?
Or does the Jew's morality not count?
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Post by cadman on Jul 3, 2024 16:11:37 GMT -5
it can be performed up to 13 weeks. only the mothers health can change that time frame of 13 weeks. there now its settled. whats next. It depends on the state you are in. The federal standard of up to viability was thrown out with the Dobb's decision. It ain't settled.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 3, 2024 17:05:46 GMT -5
This thread has been distorted a bit.
Originally it was about ABORTION SURVIVORS being executed by doctors and nurses after they were delivered alive.
That is without question murder. Why is there not a trial for each and every person who has committed this crime?
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 3, 2024 17:09:58 GMT -5
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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 3, 2024 18:13:23 GMT -5
How many zygotes are expelled every year?
How many "babies" are miscarried every year?
Every single one was destroyed by a vengeful God ... right?
Blame that critter ... not the women who experienced it.
Were they were heinous sinners who failed to repent?
Were they somehow carrying the souls of hideous Demons?
Or, did the process of division go wrong, and the body react appropriately?
It's a godamn survival of the species adaptation, dimwits!
Women who carry deformed infants to term are not likely to survive without modern medicine.
Prior to WW-2, they just died, as did a large percentage of "normal" birth mothers.
How long does a baby born with it's brain outside of its' skull survive?
Would you like to stand there with a stopwatch?
Bottom line: "Mind Your Own Business"
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Post by luapnor on Jul 3, 2024 19:30:14 GMT -5
So until then it would probably be best to be anti-abortion as not to be a participant in what might be considered murder from a legal standpoint. Not really since abortion is legal and is not murder. If the law changes it will not affect anything before that date. Abortion is the intentional killing of an unborn child.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 3, 2024 19:32:18 GMT -5
Life begins at conception. To end this life is indeed a murder. Stop conceptions via birth control and the murder of the innocent unborn children will end. It’s that simple. One mechanism of birth control (the pill) is a form of abortion by your definition.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 3, 2024 21:31:01 GMT -5
Not if it’s done or taken before conception.
The “day after” pill yes it is.
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