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Post by cadman on Jun 30, 2024 7:33:52 GMT -5
Obviously dems won't vote for the orange man. But for a elephant to switch to a donkey to try and get dem votes, only because of that, so voters could say ," they were donkeys who didn't vote for Joe" and maybe pick up some of the elephants who don't want to vote for the orange man, it's a longshot.. marginally more believable to pick up elephant votes based on her previous platform views, than for donkeys to ignore previuos platform and go with a party change ..its a deal with the devil that goes with switching parties and has major political prostitution and pandering at its core. Why don't they run charlie crist instead? He is used to political swapping parties..his lack of character does not bother him.. run Andrew Gillum as his running mate.. What did the radio talk show guy call it.. "Low information voters" I think..lol.. I'm just thinking what i wouldn't mind seeing. if biden drops out for health reasons and releases his delegates, then the convention is wide open. The obvious replacement would be Kalama Harris, but I am not sure anyone likes her or would vote for her. She has a -16 favorability rating. Not worse than Trump's, but not any better. I don't see a viable Democrat taking over for Biden who could beat Trump. Since my wish would be for neither Trump or Biden to be President, that leaves a more moderate Republican to take tup the democratic nomination. Not even sure if they have to switch parties. I think they could still be a Republican just chosen at the Democratic convention. I think, at this point, we need something radical to happen to stop either Biden or Trump from becoming President for another 4 years. Maybe, if Trump chooses Rubio as VP, we let Rubio handle it by getting Trump impeached quickly. The polls post debate are not showing Biden was hurt much by the poor performance. Those who say they would vote for Biden has not changed in the overnight polls. the IPOS poll showed 40% thought Trump was good or excellent and 8% thought Bidne was good or excellent. As one poll put it, Biden lost the debate, but Trump did not win it.
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Post by olmucky on Jun 30, 2024 7:39:44 GMT -5
Obviously dems won't vote for the orange man. But for a elephant to switch to a donkey to try and get dem votes, only because of that, so voters could say ," they were donkeys who didn't vote for Joe" and maybe pick up some of the elephants who don't want to vote for the orange man, it's a longshot.. marginally more believable to pick up elephant votes based on her previous platform views, than for donkeys to ignore previuos platform and go with a party change ..its a deal with the devil that goes with switching parties and has major political prostitution and pandering at its core. Why don't they run charlie crist instead? He is used to political swapping parties..his lack of character does not bother him.. run Andrew Gillum as his running mate.. What did the radio talk show guy call it.. "Low information voters" I think..lol.. That side would vote for them
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Post by olmucky on Jun 30, 2024 7:42:47 GMT -5
. Give independents a competent alternative. Why can’t there be a competitive independent candidate?
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Post by cadman on Jun 30, 2024 7:54:01 GMT -5
. Give independents a competent alternative. Why can’t there be a competitive independent candidate? Too late for this election to qualify. Most states require the candidate qualify by December 2023 to be on the general ballot or a major party nominee. I think there can be, but the money and support has to be there a year before the general election to qualify and most candidates, at that point, are trying for one of the major party nominations due to the system in place.
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Post by Captj on Jun 30, 2024 9:04:28 GMT -5
What would happen if an independent candidate not on the November ballot received more write in votes than either party's candidate?
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Post by throttle on Jun 30, 2024 9:28:34 GMT -5
Just because you think Alfred is to old to take care of the batcave you don’t replace him with the penguin Still not voting for the convict Of course you would never vote for Trump, your comments on this forum make that apparent.. However I believe if you vote for a president that is as cognitively and physical impaired as Biden, you are unamerican. It's not just Joe's decrepit state that disqualifies him; it's that he has more allegiance to his patrons in China than to the American people. Clearly his actions indicate he has nothing but contempt for us. He's burdened us, endangered us, indebted us and impoverished us to show his scorn for his sworn duty as president.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 30, 2024 9:31:04 GMT -5
Would Bernie Sanders accept a draft?
He would have a shot at winning.
Hillary Clinton has the experience, the smarts, and the energy.
But, she'll probably only run if she's drafted.
Michelle Obama could do the job, with Katie Porter as VP/ attack dog.
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Post by olmucky on Jun 30, 2024 9:48:55 GMT -5
Why can’t there be a competitive independent candidate? Too late for this election to qualify. Most states require the candidate qualify by December 2023 to be on the general ballot or a major party nominee. I think there can be, but the money and support has to be there a year before the general election to qualify and most candidates, at that point, are trying for one of the major party nominations due to the system in place. So if Biden were the one who qualified by Dec 23…how can they replace him now?
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 30, 2024 9:50:00 GMT -5
. Give independents a competent alternative. Why can’t there be a competitive independent candidate? Dems and Pubs don’t want it. CNN made the criteria too high for JFK to qualify. You can’t tell me he wouldn’t have done well against the geezers.
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Post by cadman on Jun 30, 2024 11:54:40 GMT -5
Too late for this election to qualify. Most states require the candidate qualify by December 2023 to be on the general ballot or a major party nominee. I think there can be, but the money and support has to be there a year before the general election to qualify and most candidates, at that point, are trying for one of the major party nominations due to the system in place. So if Biden were the one who qualified by Dec 23…how can they replace him now? Read my post "Most states require the candidate qualify by December 2023 to be on the general ballot or a major party nominee." The December deadline applies to third party independent candidates. Any candidate from a major party automatically qualifies. The Democrats and Republicans can choose anyone they wish and they will be on the ballot. I think only Ohio has a rule where the major party candidate has to be chosen by sometime in July, but the legislature can bypass that easily and most likely would. At least that was how I understood it reading the rules.
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Post by cadman on Jun 30, 2024 12:00:00 GMT -5
Why can’t there be a competitive independent candidate? Dems and Pubs don’t want it. CNN made the criteria too high for JFK to qualify. You can’t tell me he wouldn’t have done well against the geezers. RFK might qualify for the September debates, which could be interesting. The 15% polling criteria is the big issue for the June debate and the September debate. After this debate performance by both candidate, RFK might get over 15% in four major polls, which would qualify him to debate in September. What would happen if he qualifies and Biden or Trump refuse to debate?
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 30, 2024 13:23:15 GMT -5
Dems and Pubs don’t want it. CNN made the criteria too high for JFK to qualify. You can’t tell me he wouldn’t have done well against the geezers. RFK might qualify for the September debates, which could be interesting. The 15% polling criteria is the big issue for the June debate and the September debate. After this debate performance by both candidate, RFK might get over 15% in four major polls, which would qualify him to debate in September. What would happen if he qualifies and Biden or Trump refuse to debate? Trump will not debate again, it could only hurt him.
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Post by cadman on Jun 30, 2024 13:28:32 GMT -5
RFK might qualify for the September debates, which could be interesting. The 15% polling criteria is the big issue for the June debate and the September debate. After this debate performance by both candidate, RFK might get over 15% in four major polls, which would qualify him to debate in September. What would happen if he qualifies and Biden or Trump refuse to debate? Trump will not debate again, it could only hurt him. I'm not so sure. If the polls give him a huge lead maybe, but Trump's ego could see it as a way to finish Biden right before the election if the polls are still close.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 30, 2024 13:32:42 GMT -5
If it’s Biden, he’s to chicken shit to get on the stage with anyone competent. Look at the Pub primaries. Ron and Nikki would have stuffed him into his own asshole. He knew it and avoided.
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Post by OhMy on Jun 30, 2024 14:14:21 GMT -5
RFK might qualify for the September debates, which could be interesting. The 15% polling criteria is the big issue for the June debate and the September debate. After this debate performance by both candidate, RFK might get over 15% in four major polls, which would qualify him to debate in September. What would happen if he qualifies and Biden or Trump refuse to debate? Trump will not debate again, it could only hurt him. If I were advising Trump on the debates I would tell him to not accept any debate moderated by ABC News. He already did CNN, ABC news is more biased than CNN and George Snuffleupagus could not control himself as a moderator and would try to be Johnny Fact Checker. Switch the debate to occur on X.
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