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Post by cyclist on Jun 22, 2024 9:36:52 GMT -5
So it’s not the illegal possession and use of the guns that bothers you. It’s that their neighbors have too much freedom in gun ownership. Thanks for clarifying. 🙄 The neighbors rules are so lax they are selling guns to the wrong people. All so some mouth breathing moron can arm his dumb ass to the teeth with guns engineered to kill people. |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 22, 2024 9:56:21 GMT -5
Right back to “It’s the guns”.
That is the lamest excuse and explanation there is.
I know a person that owns about 500 guns. Not one of them has shot or killed anyone.
It’s not the guns. It’s the people. It’s the criminals. It’s lack enforcement of the laws. It’s lack of strict punishment.
For the last time. If they outlawed the ability to own guns only the outlaws would have guns. Criminals will always find a way.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 22, 2024 11:33:31 GMT -5
So it’s not the illegal possession and use of the guns that bothers you. It’s that their neighbors have too much freedom in gun ownership. Thanks for clarifying. 🙄 The neighbors rules are so lax they are selling guns to the wrong people. All so some mouth breathing moron can arm his dumb ass to the teeth with guns engineered to kill people. Really? Is that just you supposing what you want the truth to be, or is it a documented fact that you can support with statistical data? Most likely, the former. My guess would be that most of the guns being used by criminals weren’t legally obtained by them to begin with. I mean they are criminals after all, so what the law says isn't really something they consider before they commit their crimes. |
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 23, 2024 14:00:02 GMT -5
It's not the guns...It's the ready availability of guns.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 23, 2024 14:09:21 GMT -5
It's not the guns...It's the ready availability of guns. Saying availability is the issue is like saying that drunks run people over because too much alcohol is available. The broken laws don’t have anything to do with the issue in the minds of some dolts. |
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Post by cyclist on Jun 23, 2024 15:22:45 GMT -5
It's not the guns...It's the ready availability of guns. Saying availability is the issue is like saying that drunks run people over because too much alcohol is available. The broken laws don’t have anything to do with the issue in the minds of some dolts. The facts cleary show the more guns available with lax laws or enforcement equate to more deaths by guns. |
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Post by bottom feeder on Jun 23, 2024 15:35:54 GMT -5
Just look at how easily Hunter obtained a gun.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 23, 2024 16:08:19 GMT -5
Saying availability is the issue is like saying that drunks run people over because too much alcohol is available. The broken laws don’t have anything to do with the issue in the minds of some dolts. The facts cleary show the more guns available with lax laws or enforcement equate to more deaths by guns. Lax as in not prosecuting crimes? Sure. There are plenty of examples of that being the case. Thats a fact. Nowhere is crime caused by not having enough laws already on the books though. |
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Post by conchydong on Jun 23, 2024 16:27:49 GMT -5
It's not the guns...It's the ready availability of guns. Saying availability is the issue is like saying that drunks run people over because too much alcohol is available. The broken laws don’t have anything to do with the issue in the minds of some dolts. So when there was prohibition on alcohol it only opened up a illegal bootleg market but those wanted it still could obtain it. Similar to the illegal drug market. Laws won’t change the people who are criminals to begin with. I’d rather have my firearms to be able to defend myself and family. |
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 23, 2024 17:23:57 GMT -5
I don’t disagree.
Point was that people committing crimes with legal things isn’t a gun thing or an availability thing. The misuse of the items whether it’s guns or alcohol is a people thing. Address the criminal because they are the problem.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 23, 2024 19:06:42 GMT -5
I don’t disagree. Point was that people committing crimes with legal things isn’t a gun thing or an availability thing. The misuse of the items whether it’s guns or alcohol is a people thing. Address the criminal because they are the problem. Yes. It’s absolutely the people. A young person was arrested for murder recently close by. He was out (without even having to post a bond) for being arrested for shooting someone else and possessing a firearm by a felon. Lax administration of existing laws by a “liberal” district attorney cost another person their life. |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 23, 2024 19:12:13 GMT -5
And they are now manufacturing their own guns. They are “printing”?, them.
They call them ghost guns. I don’t have a clue how they do it. But they are doing it.
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Post by cadman on Jun 23, 2024 19:22:39 GMT -5
And they are now manufacturing their own guns. They are “printing”?, them. They call them ghost guns. I don’t have a clue how they do it. But they are doing it. Ghost guns are just guns assembled from parts bought separately. Some components may be 3D printed, but that is usually just the plastic pieces. Not many gang bangers own digital metal printers. It is easier to buy the parts. It is called a ghost gun since it has no serial number and is untraceable. Still takes some skill to build a gun from parts. I would bet most are bought on the black market or pawn shops and swap meets. |
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jun 23, 2024 20:19:36 GMT -5
The only solution is more guns. More guns for everyone.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 23, 2024 21:53:52 GMT -5
Saying availability is the issue is like saying that drunks run people over because too much alcohol is available. The broken laws don’t have anything to do with the issue in the minds of some dolts. The facts cleary show the more guns available with lax laws or enforcement equate to more deaths by guns. I cant believe your guns havent risen up and killed you. |
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