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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 22, 2024 9:04:11 GMT -5
Look where we are already:
1) Weaponized government agencies attacking political opponents.
2) media being manipulated and controlled against political opponents
3) Attempted intimidation of the Supreme Court.
4) Lies and distortions spread by elected officials.
Goodness, doesnāt this seem like Germany circa 1930?
One political party is intent upon controlling our country and eliminating our freedoms, voices and ultimately our democracy.
Realize it, learn from the past, fight for our freedoms and our country.
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Post by cadman on Jun 22, 2024 10:28:23 GMT -5
He never said that we werenāt a republic. China is also a republic as are many other countries that we never want to become like. I think you missed his point. Itās the democracy or the extent of it that is missing from China and some other republics that make them different from us. The democracy is what he is afraid of losing. Maybe not completely losing it but at least being significantly reduced. Some laugh and say itās an irrational fear, but why doubt someone who tells you itās what they are working toward. That would truly be irrational. Remember to say that the next time BT or someone on the left calls us a democracy, and someone on the right makes a big deal about the U.S. being a Republic. Be sure you tell them China is a Republic and we don't want to become China. But thanks for proving the point I was making.
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Post by cadman on Jun 22, 2024 10:32:43 GMT -5
Look where we are already: 1) Weaponized government agencies attacking political opponents. 2) media being manipulated and controlled against political opponents 3) Attempted intimidation of the Supreme Court. 4) Lies and distortions spread by elected officials. Goodness, doesnāt this seem like Germany circa 1930? One political party is intent upon controlling our country and eliminating our freedoms, voices and ultimately our democracy. Realize it, learn from the past, fight for our freedoms and our country. Those Damn MAGATs! 1) Trump has promised, if he wins he will prosecuted his opponents. 2) He wants to have his own media company to spout his lies 3) He wants the power to fire federal judges and he has repeatedly claimed the judges he appointed owe him. 4) Trump lies about the 2020 election, what he did in office, and what he will do as President. He is a habitual liar . You described the MAGAT movement perfectly!
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 22, 2024 10:39:56 GMT -5
Sure.
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I wish I was smart like you.
If I was I could lie and make stuff up just like you do.
The problem is people with half a brain donāt believe your bull crap.
Even a mentally handicapped person like myself can see through your fantasies and hallucinations.
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Post by Mango Man on Jun 22, 2024 11:00:12 GMT -5
They definitely brag about their plan to āfundamentally change our countryā. That in itself is anti-American. That in itself should be enough to make people vote them out for good. Our country is not perfect BUT it is not in need of āFundamental Changeā. Beware! Beware! Beware! If a peon like you thinks our country doesn't need fundamental change, then we are fucked.
A little personal attack there Pete, c'mon! What dire changes do you see needed, to the point it brings treason.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 22, 2024 11:09:44 GMT -5
Sure. šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£ I wish I was smart like you. If I was I could lie and make stuff up just like you do.
The problem is people with half a brain donāt believe your bull crap. Even a mentally handicapped person like myself can see through your fantasies and hallucinations. You're far better at lying and making up stuff than anyone else on this forum. (Ok, ok....I didn't think about luapnor) I'm glad to see you're admitting you have a mental handicap. Maybe you can reserve you a spot at one of those brain washing places you want to send folks who don't think like you.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 22, 2024 11:17:06 GMT -5
He never said that we werenāt a republic. China is also a republic as are many other countries that we never want to become like. I think you missed his point. Itās the democracy or the extent of it that is missing from China and some other republics that make them different from us. The democracy is what he is afraid of losing. Maybe not completely losing it but at least being significantly reduced. Some laugh and say itās an irrational fear, but why doubt someone who tells you itās what they are working toward. That would truly be irrational. Remember to say that the next time BT or someone on the left calls us a democracy, and someone on the right makes a big deal about the U.S. being a Republic. Be sure you tell them China is a Republic and we don't want to become China.Ā But thanks for proving the point I was making.Ā Still missing the point, I see. Some things never change!š¤£
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 22, 2024 11:22:08 GMT -5
If a peon like you thinks our country doesn't need fundamental change, then we are fucked.
A little personal attack there Pete, c'mon! What dire changes do you see needed, to the point it brings treason. I don't think we can criticize Pete much when you have folks like IF on here saying what he is saying although he might have learned it from Pete. As far as treason goes, I consider IF just as treasonous as the folks on the far left. Both sides want to do the same thing just 180 degrees apart. The main problem is they only want to act like they are still in kindergarten, calling names, being derogatory and basically shutting out any proposal that doesn't conform to their preconceived notions.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 22, 2024 12:02:58 GMT -5
Just save America is all I want.
Leave our āDemocratic Republicā as it has been since independence.
A voice for all of the people.
No weaponization of government agencies against any political adversaries.
Penalties and jail for any corrupt politicians.
Active independent agency specializing in investigating corruption within our government.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 22, 2024 12:04:19 GMT -5
Yes. And term limits for all federal politicians. 8-10 year maximum term limit
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 22, 2024 12:05:52 GMT -5
Robert I donāt know where you see that from anything I have posted. You are wrong.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 22, 2024 12:24:24 GMT -5
Just save America is all I want. Leave our āDemocratic Republicā as it has been since independence. A voice for all of the people. No weaponization of government agencies against any political adversaries. Penalties and jail for any corrupt politicians. Active independent agency specializing in investigating corruption within our government. Who appoints the independent agency?
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 22, 2024 12:25:02 GMT -5
The word treason has become just another buzzword that has been so misused recently that itās lost its punch.
Itās only real value, of late, is that it makes the people misusing it feel like theyāre scoring some point, even if itās only in their own mind.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 22, 2024 12:25:32 GMT -5
Who appoints the independent agency?
That is a good question. What would you say?
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 22, 2024 12:35:07 GMT -5
Who appoints the independent agency? That is a good question. What would you say? Nope, your idea, you go first. We already have an agency that is supposed to look into political corruption. FBI director is appointed by the president.
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