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Post by meateater on Jun 20, 2024 8:48:52 GMT -5
jackie gleason used to tip me .25 couple times a week when i would park his car at the clubhouse, 1.00 when i would drive him home then walk back 1/2 mile to work. yea i never reported that money.
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Post by johngalt on Jun 20, 2024 9:19:52 GMT -5
This is the reason I always pay cash in a restaurant. And tip cash. The more money we can keep out of government hands the better off we are.
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Post by OhMy on Jun 20, 2024 10:39:45 GMT -5
If they implement tax free tips my tip amount is going down. Anyone seen the national debt? Stop buying votes on the taxpayers back !!! i think any discussion about reducing revenue with a tax cut should be required to have the cut in expenses listed that will pay for it, same is true for any increase in spending, it should include the source of the increase in revenue that will pay for it. Just freeze spending and tax rates at current levels, the revenue will increase over the next 5 years and catch up to the current expenditures and we would have a balanced budget. From that point on, if you want to increase spending, you have to increase taxes or cut spending elsewhere. If you want to cut taxes, you have to cut spending by the same amount. Also, they need to fix Social Security by raising the retirement age to 70 for those under 60, eliminate the earnings cap on the tax, and raise the payroll tax rate. Is this your opinion with the hundreds of billions appropriated for foreign wars as well? I disagree on social security. Having paid into this system my entire life providing me a small stipend of what I paid into it at age 70 is bullshit. If they want to keep raising the retirement age than just give me the money I put into the system with a mere 5% ROI and I will happily agree not to take social security when I am 70. This should be an option for the youth as well, opt in or opt out of social security. I would love to see how many choose to opt in. The whole program is BS. The government does much worse with finances than any private person or company. I love it when I hear the libs talk about a universal income. I mean how much more free money can we hand out in this country?
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Post by cadman on Jun 20, 2024 11:41:55 GMT -5
i think any discussion about reducing revenue with a tax cut should be required to have the cut in expenses listed that will pay for it, same is true for any increase in spending, it should include the source of the increase in revenue that will pay for it. Just freeze spending and tax rates at current levels, the revenue will increase over the next 5 years and catch up to the current expenditures and we would have a balanced budget. From that point on, if you want to increase spending, you have to increase taxes or cut spending elsewhere. If you want to cut taxes, you have to cut spending by the same amount. Also, they need to fix Social Security by raising the retirement age to 70 for those under 60, eliminate the earnings cap on the tax, and raise the payroll tax rate. Is this your opinion with the hundreds of billions appropriated for foreign wars as well? I disagree on social security. Having paid into this system my entire life providing me a small stipend of what I paid into it at age 70 is bullshit. If they want to keep raising the retirement age than just give me the money I put into the system with a mere 5% ROI and I will happily agree not to take social security when I am 70. This should be an option for the youth as well, opt in or opt out of social security. I would love to see how many choose to opt in. The whole program is BS. The government does much worse with finances than any private person or company. I love it when I hear the libs talk about a universal income. I mean how much more free money can we hand out in this country? Universal income is a stupid idea and has not worked any place they tried it, that I know of. You did not "pay into" social security. You paid a special purpose tax the went to paying benefits for others. If you and other younger people got their money back, then all of the retirees owed benefits would be paid from the general fund and the deficit would triple. Your idea won't work. The only solutions are to raise the retirement age, raise the tax rate, or remove the earnings cap on the payroll tax. Without doing one or all three of those, you won't get nothing for all that money you paid in if you are under 40. It will be gone. If you are under 50, maybe half the benefit you expected. They expect to have to cut benefits 20% by 2035 currently unless congress does something to fix it.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 20, 2024 12:35:34 GMT -5
Some folks think destruction is the solution.
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Post by Captj on Jun 20, 2024 13:16:14 GMT -5
If they implement tax free tips my tip amount is going down. Anyone seen the national debt? Stop buying votes on the taxpayers back !!! i think any discussion about reducing revenue with a tax cut should be required to have the cut in expenses listed that will pay for it, same is true for any increase in spending, it should include the source of the increase in revenue that will pay for it. Just freeze spending and tax rates at current levels, the revenue will increase over the next 5 years and catch up to the current expenditures and we would have a balanced budget. From that point on, if you want to increase spending, you have to increase taxes or cut spending elsewhere. If you want to cut taxes, you have to cut spending by the same amount. Also, they need to fix Social Security by raising the retirement age to 70 for those under 60, eliminate the earnings cap on the tax, and raise the payroll tax rate. Makes too much sense.
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Post by johngalt on Jun 20, 2024 13:31:11 GMT -5
Is this your opinion with the hundreds of billions appropriated for foreign wars as well? I disagree on social security. Having paid into this system my entire life providing me a small stipend of what I paid into it at age 70 is bullshit. If they want to keep raising the retirement age than just give me the money I put into the system with a mere 5% ROI and I will happily agree not to take social security when I am 70. This should be an option for the youth as well, opt in or opt out of social security. I would love to see how many choose to opt in. The whole program is BS. The government does much worse with finances than any private person or company. I love it when I hear the libs talk about a universal income. I mean how much more free money can we hand out in this country? Universal income is a stupid idea and has not worked any place they tried it, that I know of. You did not "pay into" social security. You paid a special purpose tax the went to paying benefits for others. If you and other younger people got their money back, then all of the retirees owed benefits would be paid from the general fund and the deficit would triple. Your idea won't work. The only solutions are to raise the retirement age, raise the tax rate, or remove the earnings cap on the payroll tax. Without doing one or all three of those, you won't get nothing for all that money you paid in if you are under 40. It will be gone. If you are under 50, maybe half the benefit you expected. They expect to have to cut benefits 20% by 2035 currently unless congress does something to fix it. Thanks for describing the Ponzi scheme. 👍
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Post by nuevowavo on Jun 20, 2024 13:45:58 GMT -5
If this actually happened (and it won't) imagine the faces when they realize that none of that tip money is going toward their Social Security.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 20, 2024 13:58:27 GMT -5
Not to mention no politician wants to say, I’m gonna raise your taxes and increase the minimum age to receive benefits.
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Post by conchydong on Jun 20, 2024 15:35:41 GMT -5
jackie gleason used to tip me .25 couple times a week when i would park his car at the clubhouse, 1.00 when i would drive him home then walk back 1/2 mile to work. yea i never reported that money. Did you work at Inverary?
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Post by johngalt on Jun 20, 2024 18:18:55 GMT -5
If this actually happened (and it won't) imagine the faces when they realize that none of that tip money is going toward their Social Security. People in their twenties and thirties don’t have to worry about social security. It ain’t gonna be around by the time they turn 80. 😉
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Post by nuevowavo on Jun 21, 2024 12:59:44 GMT -5
If this actually happened (and it won't) imagine the faces when they realize that none of that tip money is going toward their Social Security. People in their twenties and thirties don’t have to worry about social security. It ain’t gonna be around by the time they turn 80. 😉
Hell, it probably won't be around when I turn 80, unless the idiots in Congress get their act together and do something about it.
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Post by meateater on Jun 21, 2024 14:51:27 GMT -5
jackie gleason used to tip me .25 couple times a week when i would park his car at the clubhouse, 1.00 when i would drive him home then walk back 1/2 mile to work. yea i never reported that money. Did you work at Inverary? yuuuuup, in the good ole days.
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Post by meateater on Jun 21, 2024 14:56:31 GMT -5
If they implement tax free tips my tip amount is going down. Anyone seen the national debt? Stop buying votes on the taxpayers back !!! no your not, its not there fault . the government screws us all but as working class american citizens we should support each other when we can.
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Post by dragonbait on Jun 21, 2024 14:58:25 GMT -5
Did you work at Inverary? yuuuuup, in the good ole days. More than once I dumped a bottle of soap in the water fall
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