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Post by luapnor on Jun 23, 2024 13:59:48 GMT -5
It's not even similar. NATO was threatening his country through their proxy Ukraine. It's no different than China putting nukes on our border with Mexico. Or the soviet's putting nukes in Cuba. Iraq was not a threat to us in anyway shape or form. They were our ally. Putin lover all the way. Just like cyclist, can't think for yourself.
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Post by meateater on Jun 24, 2024 13:21:49 GMT -5
so we should get involved and send how many young men and women,, whats the number of deaths of americans is a good number for you. now after we save ukraine tell me that what all we gained that will justify there deaths. kinda like afghanistan , iraq, syria and all the other wars in the past 40 years. oh wait are we gonna fight them there so we dont have to fight them here. give me a break, talk to me when its your 18 or 20 year old son or daughter heading over there.
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Post by johngalt on Jun 24, 2024 14:10:18 GMT -5
That’s what myself and others said when this all started(and before) let the Ukrainians fight by what ever means necessary. We/NATO imposed ridiculous restrictions, thank Tony Blinkin, Victoria Newland, Jake Sullivan and the rest of the losers in both the Failure Factory, DOD and Bidens advisors. Those losers have done so much damage to our standing in the last 25 years it is incalculable. We need to allow Ukraine to attack Russian bases within Russia or else it will be futile. Think about thIs situation in the context of the Korean and Vietnam wars. We have this odd habit of allowing our Eastern enemies to have safe enclaves when they can keep pounding and chipping away at the pro-West governments we’re trying to defend. We don’t try to crush the pro-East governments. We only fight defensive wars and allow the enemy to remain on offense until they win or have a stalemate. We have a fetishized fear of escalation with Sino-Russia and they’ve been playing it to their advantage for 80 years. That was one of the underlying themes in 1984. War is Peace. 😉
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Post by johngalt on Jun 24, 2024 14:14:27 GMT -5
But Putin is doing one. Luapnor defends Putin's actions all the time. Putin said(and I agree) that the next war will be fought with ones and zeros. Does that make me a Putin lover too? I’m still waiting for your response as to why fighting a land war in Europe with Russia would be to our benefit?
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Post by OhMy on Jun 24, 2024 17:29:49 GMT -5
so we should get involved and send how many young men and women,, whats the number of deaths of americans is a good number for you. now after we save ukraine tell me that what all we gained that will justify there deaths. kinda like afghanistan , iraq, syria and all the other wars in the past 40 years. oh wait are we gonna fight them there so we dont have to fight them here. give me a break, talk to me when its your 18 or 20 year old son or daughter heading over there. Very good post there. I asked 2 < 20 year old kids last week if they knew why the Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq wars were fought over. Neither knew anything about the wars. Name a war sine WW2 that made any POSITIVE difference to the average US citizen?
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Post by luapnor on Jun 24, 2024 21:39:59 GMT -5
Russia will not lose. Not sure why anyone finds that hard to understand. The Russians burned Moscow to the ground to deny napoleon a victory. They understand the meaning of real war better than any American has ever had to. We pushed them into a corner with nato... we supported Ukraine in killing Ukrainians in Donbas...the western elites have played there cards. They know what the intentions are, they have called the bluff. They simply will not lose. They will take the world with them if you try. We need to stop this idiotic notion we can beat them.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 24, 2024 22:22:57 GMT -5
Russia will not lose. Not sure why anyone finds that hard to understand. The Russians burned Moscow to the ground to deny napoleon a victory. They understand the meaning of real war better than any American has ever had to. We pushed them into a corner with nato... we supported Ukraine in killing Ukrainians in Donbas...the western elites have played there cards. They know what the intentions are, they have called the bluff. They simply will not lose. They will take the world with them if you try. We need to stop this idiotic notion we can beat them. These are the posts that give you the Putin lover tag. Admit it, you secretly cheered when Drago killed Apollo. Favorite wrestler was Nikolai Volcoff?
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Post by cadman on Jun 25, 2024 7:27:21 GMT -5
But Putin is doing one. Luapnor defends Putin's actions all the time. Putin said(and I agree) that the next war will be fought with ones and zeros. Does that make me a Putin lover too? I’m still waiting for your response as to why fighting a land war in Europe with Russia would be to our benefit? The next war is already being fought and it ain't with ones and zeros. You do not appear to be pro-Russia like Luapnor is, He defends every action Russia and Putin takes. Putin has repeatedly said he wants to bring back the glory of the old USSR. That means taking over a few NATO countries that would force our physical involvement rather that just monetary support. I would prefer to let Ukraine and our monetary support weaken Russia and convince them not to try expanding further rather than have our young people fighting a war for the next 10 years and dying. If you want to see WW3, let Russia take Ukraine without a fight and you will eventually get your wish.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 25, 2024 8:37:46 GMT -5
Russia will not lose. Not sure why anyone finds that hard to understand. The Russians burned Moscow to the ground to deny napoleon a victory. They understand the meaning of real war better than any American has ever had to. We pushed them into a corner with nato... we supported Ukraine in killing Ukrainians in Donbas...the western elites have played there cards. They know what the intentions are, they have called the bluff. They simply will not lose. They will take the world with them if you try. We need to stop this idiotic notion we can beat them. You say Russia can’t be beat, and no one can or should try because if Russia ever loses a war, they’ll destroy the world out of spite. Do you not understand that: 1. That’s a primary reason you sound like a Russian agent and not an American citizen? 2. Assuming you are an American, you definitely love and respect Russia more than your own country? Meaning you ought to leave the country you hate and go to the country you love. 3. You’re making the case why Russia needs to be stopped now? Any country that will threaten to destroy the world any time its faced with losing is an evil country.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 25, 2024 9:10:57 GMT -5
Just like cyclist, can't think for yourself. Says the sexual predator felon voting brain dead cultist.
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Post by meateater on Jun 25, 2024 9:37:35 GMT -5
so we should get involved and send how many young men and women,, whats the number of deaths of americans is a good number for you. now after we save ukraine tell me that what all we gained that will justify there deaths. kinda like afghanistan , iraq, syria and all the other wars in the past 40 years. oh wait are we gonna fight them there so we dont have to fight them here. give me a break, talk to me when its your 18 or 20 year old son or daughter heading over there. Very good post there. I asked 2 < 20 year old kids last week if they knew why the Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq wars were fought over. Neither knew anything about the wars. Name a war sine WW2 that made any POSITIVE difference to the average US citizen? dont hold your breath.
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Post by meateater on Jun 25, 2024 9:44:11 GMT -5
Russia will not lose. Not sure why anyone finds that hard to understand. The Russians burned Moscow to the ground to deny napoleon a victory. They understand the meaning of real war better than any American has ever had to. We pushed them into a corner with nato... we supported Ukraine in killing Ukrainians in Donbas...the western elites have played there cards. They know what the intentions are, they have called the bluff. They simply will not lose. They will take the world with them if you try. We need to stop this idiotic notion we can beat them. These are the posts that give you the Putin lover tag. Admit it, you secretly cheered when Drago killed Apollo. Favorite wrestler was Nikolai Volcoff? thank god for the russians,,,,,,,,,bobrovsky and barkov. oh and tarasenko.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 25, 2024 14:25:26 GMT -5
I asked 2 < 20 year old kids last week if they knew why the Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq wars were fought over. Neither knew anything about the wars. Name a war sine WW2 that made any POSITIVE difference to the average US citizen? The war against Iraq supposedly lowered gas prices a nickel per gallon. ( But, it also made Dick Cheney a multi millionaire. )
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Post by conchydong on Jun 25, 2024 14:43:22 GMT -5
These are the posts that give you the Putin lover tag. Admit it, you secretly cheered when Drago killed Apollo. Favorite wrestler was Nikolai Volcoff? thank god for the russians,,,,,,,,,bobrovsky and barkov. oh and tarasenko. I don’t think any of those guys will ever go back to Russia though. I think Pavel Bure did as he was a buddy of Putin but Valerie stayed in the US.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 25, 2024 19:45:20 GMT -5
Russia will not lose. Not sure why anyone finds that hard to understand. The Russians burned Moscow to the ground to deny napoleon a victory. They understand the meaning of real war better than any American has ever had to. We pushed them into a corner with nato... we supported Ukraine in killing Ukrainians in Donbas...the western elites have played there cards. They know what the intentions are, they have called the bluff. They simply will not lose. They will take the world with them if you try. We need to stop this idiotic notion we can beat them. These are the posts that give you the Putin lover tag. Admit it, you secretly cheered when Drago killed Apollo. Favorite wrestler was Nikolai Volcoff? Your response is indicative of someone that ignores history and can't think for yourself.
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