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Post by cadman on Jun 12, 2024 12:41:57 GMT -5
And thus the reason Trump’s team may have wanted attorneys on the jury, but it may have backfired. Its highly likely that Trump’s jury instructions were wrong and will cause the conviction to be overturned. Trump’s team may have hoped the attorneys would offer their commentary on the bad instructions or any other legally questionable thing in the trial. But instead, the attorneys may have said “yeah these instructions are questionable. But we’re bound to follow them anyhow. If they’re wrong, the appellate courts will have to fix it.” I have read a few different opinions from retired judges, attorneys and such regarding Trump's appeal. It seems some New York judges and lawyers think it is a longshot and others outside the area think he has a good chance. I think he may lose at the state level and eventually prevail at the federal level. But I wouldn't bet on any outcome.
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 12, 2024 12:55:18 GMT -5
As opposed to the petulant whining of an eternal victim, it's nice to see the leader of this country handling adversity the right way.
Like a man.
Thanks, Joe.
You know, I know, and Hunter knows, no matter what daddy says now, after the election in November, there is a pardon coming his way. There is no reason not to. What's Congress going to do? If Biden loses, he's out of there and F all of them. If he wins, they might try another impeachment hearing, but the pardon is a Presidential constitutional power. Besides, if they impeach Biden, Harris is the President and that lady scares them more than Biden ever could. Neither you nor I know any such thing.
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Post by dragonbait on Jun 12, 2024 17:56:21 GMT -5
Now that Hunter Biden is a convicted felon. It means if he wants to run for public office he'll have to run as a Republican.
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Post by pinman on Jun 12, 2024 18:45:46 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Joe will let his son ever serve time? This trial was political theater at its best! Right before the election, the sitting President gives the appearance of being "impartial" and giving into the rule of law after a political rival was railroaded and complains about the court system. Hunter took one for the team because there is an "ace in the hole". Joe can pardon or commute after the election, win or lose and it wont effect Joe one iota.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 12, 2024 18:50:45 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Joe will let his son ever serve time? This trial was political theater at its best! Right before the election, the sitting President gives the appearance of being "impartial" and giving into the rule of law after a political rival was railroaded and complains about the court system. Hunter took one for the team because there is an "ace in the hole". Joe can pardon or commute after the election, win or lose and it wont effect Joe one iota. My god that’s a lot of moving pieces, Ol’Joe must be a criminal mastermind. 5 steps ahead.
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Post by pinman on Jun 12, 2024 18:55:30 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Joe will let his son ever serve time? This trial was political theater at its best! Right before the election, the sitting President gives the appearance of being "impartial" and giving into the rule of law after a political rival was railroaded and complains about the court system. Hunter took one for the team because there is an "ace in the hole". Joe can pardon or commute after the election, win or lose and it wont effect Joe one iota. My god that’s a lot of moving pieces, Ol’Joe must be a criminal mastermind. 5 steps ahead. I dont see a lot of moving pieces. Its a simple as "Don't worry son, after the election I can pardon you".
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 12, 2024 22:08:24 GMT -5
Probably what he talked about to Beau's wife/Hunters girlfriend on that visit.
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Post by cadman on Jun 13, 2024 5:32:45 GMT -5
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jun 13, 2024 6:42:27 GMT -5
Hunter should have used every mental gymnastics means necessary to delay the trial until after the election. Then he could pardon himself...oh wait
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Post by johngalt on Jun 13, 2024 8:04:19 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Joe will let his son ever serve time? This trial was political theater at its best! Right before the election, the sitting President gives the appearance of being "impartial" and giving into the rule of law after a political rival was railroaded and complains about the court system. Hunter took one for the team because there is an "ace in the hole". Joe can pardon or commute after the election, win or lose and it wont effect Joe one iota. They could care less about this trial. Hunter will be pardoned. They are concerned about the tax evasion trial in September. It will implicate both Joe Biden and Obama. Not to mention open up all the evidence in that laptop.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 13, 2024 9:04:05 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Joe will let his son ever serve time? This trial was political theater at its best! Right before the election, the sitting President gives the appearance of being "impartial" and giving into the rule of law after a political rival was railroaded and complains about the court system. Hunter took one for the team because there is an "ace in the hole". Joe can pardon or commute after the election, win or lose and it wont effect Joe one iota. They could care less about this trial. Hunter will be pardoned. They are concerned about the tax evasion trial in September. It will implicate both Joe Biden and Obama. Not to mention open up all the evidence in that laptop. Just like the Durham Report did, right.
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Post by meateater on Jun 13, 2024 10:32:00 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Joe will let his son ever serve time? This trial was political theater at its best! Right before the election, the sitting President gives the appearance of being "impartial" and giving into the rule of law after a political rival was railroaded and complains about the court system. Hunter took one for the team because there is an "ace in the hole". Joe can pardon or commute after the election, win or lose and it wont effect Joe one iota. My god that’s a lot of moving pieces, Ol’Joe must be a criminal mastermind. 5 steps ahead. joe biden is running a worldwide criminal enterprise right under our nose, trump was a russian undercover agent working hand and hand with putin while at the same time making deals with china. those 2 guys genius masterminds
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Post by mapper on Jun 13, 2024 10:49:52 GMT -5
Not sure if I'd call Joe a mastermind.. now the puppetmaster behind the curtain, absolutely.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 13, 2024 12:45:44 GMT -5
I think they’ll find just that, that prohibiting drug addicts from having firearms has historical precedence. They’ve already said in a lot of dicta that their incorporation of the Second Amendment won’t disturb prohibitions on felons having firearms and similar categorical provisions. You don't think SCOTUS might make a distinction between violent and non violent felons? Even Trump might try to use that argument since he is now a Felon in who owns and possesses a gun. He could argue he is a non violent felon and his 2nd amendment rights are being violated by not allowing him to own a weapon. Either that or he gives up his weapons while he awaits his appeals. There would have to be a nationally binding definition as to what is and is not a violent/nonviolent felony. Currently the states define was is and isn’t violent or “forcible.” For example, Florida defines some kinds of felony batteries as non-forcible and some kinds of burglaries as forcible even if no actual force is used. Florida and New York may not agree as to whether a crime is “violent” or not. You could have a person in one state lose their gun rights and have another person with the exact same conviction in another state and not lose their gun rights based on how “violent” or “nonviolent” are defined. I think they will find it cleaner to leave the current bright lines in place. They could mandate that the processes for states or the Feds to restore firearm rights be streamlined and beefed up to be more likely to have the rights stored. Right now, very few felons ever get their firearm rights back. Governments have processes in place but they sidestep the processes by defunding them.
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 13, 2024 13:42:47 GMT -5
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