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Post by skunkdog on Jul 8, 2023 16:28:04 GMT -5
Last Nov ML deer from Virginia |
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 8, 2023 17:27:03 GMT -5
We got them. Nice deer. Congrats.
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Post by richm on Jul 8, 2023 21:29:33 GMT -5
Nothing diff from a typical ML to a single shot shotgun.
I prime when in stand but dont remove 209 primer til dark or back at truck. Walk around w hammer down, cock when want to shoot. On stand, hammer is cocked in firing mode.
No danger to MLs.
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Post by pinman on Jul 9, 2023 7:43:54 GMT -5
Nothing diff from a typical ML to a single shot shotgun. I prime when in stand but dont remove 209 primer til dark or back at truck. Walk around w hammer down, cock when want to shoot. On stand, hammer is cocked in firing mode. No danger to MLs. I dont know that I would have it cocked in a tree stand. Drop the gun from the tree and its pointed in your direction..... |
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Post by richm on Jul 9, 2023 9:16:41 GMT -5
Nothing diff from a typical ML to a single shot shotgun. I prime when in stand but dont remove 209 primer til dark or back at truck. Walk around w hammer down, cock when want to shoot. On stand, hammer is cocked in firing mode. No danger to MLs. I dont know that I would have it cocked in a tree stand. Drop the gun from the tree and its pointed in your direction..... That could be a concern if someone has a habit if dropping guns from tree stands. It’s no more dangerous than dropping a rifle out of a stand -safety on or not, 12-15 feet straight down is a good jolt. I lay the rifle/ML sideways across the top half of my climber, scope down. It’s pretty secure with the center of gravity in my lap pretty much. The reason i do this is cause, one day in the rain my Wolf ML would not cock while i had deer below me. Pull the hammer back and it wouldnt catch, over and over again. As you would know it, didnt see anymore deer that season. |
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Post by bowhunter4life on Jul 9, 2023 9:57:17 GMT -5
I load and cap it at the truck… stays uncocked until I’m ready to fire. It gets unloaded at the truck by pushing the load and bullet out. Never leave a gun charged overnight imo. Moisture can set in and you’ll be extremely disappointed when you go to shoot that buck of a lifetime and just hear click! Keep powder and caps dry!
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Post by skunkdog on Jul 9, 2023 10:47:39 GMT -5
I load and cap it at the truck… stays uncocked until I’m ready to fire. It gets unloaded at the truck by pushing the load and bullet out. Never leave a gun charged overnight imo. Moisture can set in and you’ll be extremely disappointed when you go to shoot that buck of a lifetime and just hear click! Keep powder and caps dry! My rifle stays loaded year round. I only remove the shotgun primer. |
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Post by bottom feeder on Jul 9, 2023 11:31:49 GMT -5
I have left mine loaded from one season to the next but I lube it good with bore butter. I touch it off before season and always shot good. It's a 90's model CVA converted to shotgun primer. I bought it at the Bass pro resale in Springfield. It was a floor model so brand new half price 55 bucks.
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Post by pinman on Jul 9, 2023 15:48:16 GMT -5
I dont know that I would have it cocked in a tree stand. Drop the gun from the tree and its pointed in your direction..... That could be a concern if someone has a habit if dropping guns from tree stands. It’s no more dangerous than dropping a rifle out of a stand -safety on or not, 12-15 feet straight down is a good jolt. I lay the rifle/ML sideways across the top half of my climber, scope down. It’s pretty secure with the center of gravity in my lap pretty much. The reason i do this is cause, one day in the rain my Wolf ML would not cock while i had deer below me. Pull the hammer back and it wouldnt catch, over and over again. As you would know it, didnt see anymore deer that season. I have a habit of falling asleep in tree stands. Bumping a gun over is within the realm of possibility.... |
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 9, 2023 16:14:23 GMT -5
A big wildcard in misfires is the primer. A number 11 cap in wet weather is a concern. A 209 primer will probably fire under water.
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Post by richm on Jul 9, 2023 19:11:28 GMT -5
That could be a concern if someone has a habit if dropping guns from tree stands. It’s no more dangerous than dropping a rifle out of a stand -safety on or not, 12-15 feet straight down is a good jolt. I lay the rifle/ML sideways across the top half of my climber, scope down. It’s pretty secure with the center of gravity in my lap pretty much. The reason i do this is cause, one day in the rain my Wolf ML would not cock while i had deer below me. Pull the hammer back and it wouldnt catch, over and over again. As you would know it, didnt see anymore deer that season. I have a habit of falling asleep in tree stands. Bumping a gun over is within the realm of possibility.... I sleep in my stands too. Main reason i use a climber w the seat slung low, hard to fall out of it….so far anyway. |
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 10, 2023 2:11:52 GMT -5
Up in Ohio during a cold spell I had a ladder stand with a rotating seat freeze and separate. It was exciting. My .54 cal mzl now has a screw in the stock. Always be ready for the unexpected. Good luck
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jul 10, 2023 6:13:47 GMT -5
And that is why guns have safeties and hammers and we are expected to use them properly, shitzz happens.
I don't give a damn if you miss a hundred opportunities at a deer, it ain't worth one gun going off accidentally.
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Post by richm on Jul 10, 2023 7:27:55 GMT -5
And that is why guns have safeties and hammers and we are expected to use them properly, shitzz happens. I don't give a damn if you miss a hundred opportunities at a deer, it ain't worth one gun going off accidentally. The primary NRA gun rules: ALWAYS Keep The Gun Pointed In A Safe Direction - check! ALWAYS Keep Your Finger Off The Trigger Until Ready To Shoot - check! ALWAYS Keep The Gun Unloaded Until Ready To Use - The whole unloaded thing - we carry loaded, we hunt loaded - is that considered in use? If so, then check! If not, then we're ALL doing stuff wrong. They skipped the parts about not relying on your safety, dropping your gun out of a tree stand, throwing it on the floor, or using it to drive nails while loaded. Just not addressing all the shitzz that happens.  Funny part is many guys carry a loaded gun in their pants - I submit to you that someone is more likely to shoot off his ding-dong than my ML going off unintentionally. For instance, an LCP doesn't have a safety and is useless if it aint loaded and ready to fire - but that's diff - right? I can't have a ready to fire ML in my stand yet can have a ready to fire CCW in my pants. Yeah, but, but, but.  Having a gun ready to fire that is pointed in a safe direction without your finger on the trigger is not a violation of any of the gun handling rules. Never has been and never will be. |
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Post by richm on Jul 10, 2023 7:28:53 GMT -5
Up in Ohio during a cold spell I had a ladder stand with a rotating seat freeze and separate. It was exciting. My .54 cal mzl now has a screw in the stock. Always be ready for the unexpected. Good luck Glad you didn't get hurt - right? |
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Post by swampdog on Jul 10, 2023 9:07:18 GMT -5
Richm it’s purely a safety thing. If you want to do it your way, that’s a win for you, but in the heat of the moment, who knows. I never push a safety off or cock a firearm until I’m ready to fire. Me blowing a chance because of an audible click is something I prefer to do. Teaching children the ultimate safe way is huge because they struggle early on, in always pointing the barrel in a safe direction. If it’s on fire and that barrel is wrong and a nervous finger touches the trigger, it’s a game changer. I know one guy that happened to, he’s in the cemetery and his grandson has never touched a firearm since (15 yrs ago). Good luck to ya this season.
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Post by joekat46 on Jul 10, 2023 12:24:05 GMT -5
Up in Ohio during a cold spell I had a ladder stand with a rotating seat freeze and separate. It was exciting. My .54 cal mzl now has a screw in the stock. Always be ready for the unexpected. Good luck Glad you didn't get hurt - right? Surprising just the old "wind knocked out" of me. We figured a recent rain/thaw/freeze cycle put water in the seat base then the next use popped it out. |
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Post by meateater on Jul 10, 2023 14:47:01 GMT -5
cva optima, 50 cal , cheap bushnell scope, 2 50 grain pellets, 145 grain powerbelt, clean it with boiling hot water and dish soap couple weeks before season or quota hunt. 3 test shots to be sure scopes on at 75 yds, clean it again, load it morning of my hunt and thats how it stays till i shoot a deer or hog or season ends. if i dont get anything which is rare because well its me, then i will fire it last day of my hunt and back into the safe for another year. when it comes to muzzleloader i put in the bare minimum of effort.
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Post by richm on Jul 10, 2023 18:11:20 GMT -5
Glad you didn't get hurt - right? Surprising just the old "wind knocked out" of me. We figured a recent rain/thaw/freeze cycle put water in the seat base then the next use popped it out. Glad that was it. Ice expands and breaks stuff fer sure. |
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Post by richm on Jul 10, 2023 19:25:59 GMT -5
Richm it’s purely a safety thing. If you want to do it your way, that’s a win for you, but in the heat of the moment, who knows. I never push a safety off or cock a firearm until I’m ready to fire. Me blowing a chance because of an audible click is something I prefer to do. Teaching children the ultimate safe way is huge because they struggle early on, in always pointing the barrel in a safe direction. If it’s on fire and that barrel is wrong and a nervous finger touches the trigger, it’s a game changer. I know one guy that happened to, he’s in the cemetery and his grandson has never touched a firearm since (15 yrs ago). Good luck to ya this season. That’ll leave an indellible mark. Sorry that happened. Been using and handling guns for a lifetime and will not do anyyhing unsafe or in violation of the shooting rules.. You guys are talking about buck fever, dropping it out of a tree, falling out of a tree, or something similar. I dont get buck fever and we’ll just have to say i hope not to have some wierd accident that “might” happen. |
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