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Post by misterjr on May 29, 2024 16:39:04 GMT -5
I have no interest in your opinion of me.
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Post by bullfrog on May 29, 2024 16:42:08 GMT -5
I have no interest in your opinion of me. Which again, makes you a part of the problem. You’re equal to the side you despise. |
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Post by tonyroma on May 29, 2024 22:21:20 GMT -5
Are we purposefully forgetting about the hacked Clinton campaign Emails? They were purposefully slow leaked by Wikileaks. That was a real thing. The day the grabber tape was released a trove of Clinton emails were released. It’s well know that Putin hated Hilary, blamed her for the regime change in Ukraine. The last think Vlade wanted was for her to have the football. Just ask BB.
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Post by bullfrog on May 29, 2024 22:34:48 GMT -5
Are we purposefully forgetting about the hacked Clinton campaign Emails? They were purposefully slow leaked by Wikileaks. That was a real thing. The day the grabber tape was released a trove of Clinton emails were released. It’s well know that Putin hated Hilary, blamed her for the regime change in Ukraine. The last think Vlade wanted was for her to have the football. Just ask BB. Let’s assume that was Russia and the intent was specifically to hurt Hillary. Did it? Did anyone that was going to vote for her not vote for her because of the leaks? To my recollection, the main thrust of the email leaks was that the emails showed the DNC did Bernie Sanders dirty on Hillary’s behalf. The emails themselves were legit. So where’s the problem, other than the principle its none of Russia’s business? Sounds like in that one instance, they did some good investigative journalism that simply exposed some truth that was inconvenient. Now of course the Russians are natural liars. As with the Indians, is a cultural thing for them. They most certainly flood us with what propaganda and manipulation they can. I simply don’t see where the email leak amounts to giving the 2016 election to Trump. |
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Post by luapnor on May 29, 2024 22:51:42 GMT -5
Are we purposefully forgetting about the hacked Clinton campaign Emails? They were purposefully slow leaked by Wikileaks. That was a real thing. The day the grabber tape was released a trove of Clinton emails were released. It’s well know that Putin hated Hilary, blamed her for the regime change in Ukraine. The last think Vlade wanted was for her to have the football. Just ask BB. Are you referring to the 30,000 deleted emails? Its good someone backed them up for us. Missed where she was charged for destroying US official records. |
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Post by tonyroma on May 29, 2024 23:07:12 GMT -5
Are we purposefully forgetting about the hacked Clinton campaign Emails? They were purposefully slow leaked by Wikileaks. That was a real thing. The day the grabber tape was released a trove of Clinton emails were released. It’s well know that Putin hated Hilary, blamed her for the regime change in Ukraine. The last think Vlade wanted was for her to have the football. Just ask BB. Let’s assume that was Russia and the intent was specifically to hurt Hillary. Did it? Did anyone that was going to vote for her not vote for her because of the leaks? To my recollection, the main thrust of the email leaks was that the emails showed the DNC did Bernie Sanders dirty on Hillary’s behalf. The emails themselves were legit. So where’s the problem, other than the principle its none of Russia’s business? Sounds like in that one instance, they did some good investigative journalism that simply exposed some truth that was inconvenient. Now of course the Russians are natural liars. As with the Indians, is a cultural thing for them. They most certainly flood us with what propaganda and manipulation they can. I simply don’t see where the email leak amounts to giving the 2016 election to Trump. So the DNC emails showed that Bernie got hosed, the young folks that were stoked about the Vermont socialist got disenchanted and stayed home. Those emails were systematically leaked. I’m not saying that’s the sole reason Clinton lost. But in a divided country , where elections come down to 100,000 votes getting 1/2 a percent to stay home can be big. |
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Post by tonyroma on May 29, 2024 23:09:25 GMT -5
Are we purposefully forgetting about the hacked Clinton campaign Emails? They were purposefully slow leaked by Wikileaks. That was a real thing. The day the grabber tape was released a trove of Clinton emails were released. It’s well know that Putin hated Hilary, blamed her for the regime change in Ukraine. The last think Vlade wanted was for her to have the football. Just ask BB. Are you referring to the 30,000 deleted emails? It’s good someone backed them up for us. Missed where she was charged for destroying US official records. You know Hilary is not on Vlades Christmas card list. |
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Post by bullfrog on May 29, 2024 23:28:08 GMT -5
Let’s assume that was Russia and the intent was specifically to hurt Hillary. Did it? Did anyone that was going to vote for her not vote for her because of the leaks? To my recollection, the main thrust of the email leaks was that the emails showed the DNC did Bernie Sanders dirty on Hillary’s behalf. The emails themselves were legit. So where’s the problem, other than the principle its none of Russia’s business? Sounds like in that one instance, they did some good investigative journalism that simply exposed some truth that was inconvenient. Now of course the Russians are natural liars. As with the Indians, is a cultural thing for them. They most certainly flood us with what propaganda and manipulation they can. I simply don’t see where the email leak amounts to giving the 2016 election to Trump. So the DNC emails showed that Bernie got hosed, the young folks that were stoked about the Vermont socialist got disenchanted and stayed home. Those emails were systematically leaked. I’m not saying that’s the sole reason Clinton lost. But in a divided country , where elections come down to 100,000 votes getting 1/2 a percent to stay home can be big. I can’t fault that logic. |
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Post by tonyroma on May 29, 2024 23:33:01 GMT -5
Like I said , I don’t think it was the soul reason. I got a laundry list of how Hilary and the DNC shit the bed.
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Post by cadman on May 30, 2024 5:11:49 GMT -5
Hillary lost because people simply did not like her. Her favorability rating was terrible. Against any other Republican, she would have lost by huge numbers.
Hillary sucked and the DNC should have never made her the candidate. She is the only person worse than Trump or Biden.
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Post by richm on May 30, 2024 5:55:58 GMT -5
What is the trumper magaa attraction to putin and other anti republic/democratic oligarchs? Certainly not an American ideal or anything to do with our forefathers. Biden was/is heavily invested in the Ukraine and we keep hearing he has his head up the Chinese guy's ass. So, what's the diff? Hillary started the Russia thing w Trump. Biden and Obama used $ to make Ukraine fire some guy and it is all on tape. Turn yer head on side, and let Trump slide out. You'll sleep better at night. |
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Post by richm on May 30, 2024 5:58:06 GMT -5
Hillary lost because people simply did not like her. Her favorability rating was terrible. Against any other Republican, she would have lost by huge numbers. Hillary sucked and the DNC should have never made her the candidate. She is the only person worse than Trump or Biden. Yupper! She is worse. |
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Post by misterjr on May 30, 2024 6:39:09 GMT -5
Hillary lost because people simply did not like her. Her favorability rating was terrible. Against any other Republican, she would have lost by huge numbers. Hillary sucked and the DNC should have never made her the candidate. She is the only person worse than Trump or Biden. Do you think citizens even look at a candidate's qualifications before voting? Or is it just a popularity contest? |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 30, 2024 6:48:31 GMT -5
Hillary is a bad person. A real POS. I love it when she still cry’s about losing. STILL WHINING. 😂🤣😂🤣
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Post by johngalt on May 30, 2024 8:05:28 GMT -5
Threads like this are amazing.
News flash!: Russia and others have been interfering in our elections for decades.
The problem is that we have become so partisan and team players that so many will drink the kool aid served if it fits their narrative. And social media and the internet has exasperated the problem. Imagine if Joseph Goebbels had it?🤔
Maybe I’m the only one here that remembers the Cold War? And all the disinformation and propaganda that it produced?
I have never believed that Trump had anything to do with Russia or Putin. Mainly because he saw no business opportunity there because of the stringent laws and corruption, same with China.
All of you just keep believing the garbage being fed to you by OUR government and politicians. They are the real problem.
And if you don’t believe it, I can give you 35 trillion examples for starters. 😉
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