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Post by walkerdog on May 30, 2024 15:04:03 GMT -5
The entire welfare system, whether intentional or not, destroyed the Black family unit. Then the war on drugs focused on the drugs in the ghettos with laws promoted and passed by guys like Joe Biden that put tons of Black men in prison. Affirmative action, while helpful for some, created a national attitude that those that benefitted from it where not smart enough for their achievements. The progressives doubled down on all of their failures each time and here we are... DEI is the pinnacle of stupidity as it now rounds up the rest of the "minorities" under the same umbrella of failures that destroyed the Black families. ronnie raygun and nancie really fucked up the drug laws and how we treated unstable folks.
The plight on blacks in America of course started with slavery, jim crow, redlining, segregation, you name it. Whites were allowed to accumulate wealth via property and blacks were not....up til the 70s and in some places redlining still occurs, throw in the reagan drug laws (crack versus powder), unequal pay and the current crop of white supremacists and you have a perfect storm of anti black issues that persist today.
Taylor county is 72% white and infamous for its support of the KKK, even today. Most crime appears to be white meth heads.
I wouldn’t disagree with most of what you’ve said but curiously, you failed to include the part that has done the most to keep them in poverty. Most probably, because it was team D’s contribution to the problem.
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Post by walkerdog on May 30, 2024 15:17:54 GMT -5
Getting the world to change and people to be more understanding of others is like herding a bunch of cats. Modern society has produced an excess of haters who've managed to crawl out from under their rocks. Listening has become a dying art. Conversely there are a lot of good people doing good things for others, but you won't hear or read about them because they get drowned out by the noise from those hiding behind their keyboards and conspiracies. By your words, you seem to believe that things are as they were 80 years ago. I disagree. While there are still those who have racial tendencies, I see far fewer now than at any point in the last 100 yrs. Your logic would say that things must be improving, if that’s true. They aren’t though. Not because there isn’t less racial discrimination, but because there are still those who want to stir the pot. Politicians mostly. I’ll let you guess which ones.
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Post by conchydong on May 30, 2024 15:28:17 GMT -5
I don’t dislike anyone based on their race or ethnicity or religion. I dislike people who don’t respect civility.
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Post by walkerdog on May 30, 2024 15:38:16 GMT -5
Soooo...Back to the original Thread.. If you were in charge how would you fix the Thug Life..? Would you as a White Man in America be able to do this , Would the Black Folks fight against you...how would you tell Brown town your here to help ? Do THEY have the Courage to change their society. Do they want to..? If this is not fixed sooner or later...It's not going to get any better. Do you even care ? Its going to take mainstream leadership in the black community tirelessly condemning Thug Life again and again in every platform they can. I think what whites can do is limited. Its too easy to marginalize an unpopular and uncomfortable opinion from a white person as “racist.” Plus there is some legitimate argument every time a white person opens their mouth of “well, you just don’t get it. You don’t live know what its like to be a black man in the hood.” So just take that off the table. But black leadership is doing little. Street thug culture is a multi-billion dollar industry that’s ran by powerful corporations who have every financial interest to perpetuate the culture. I don’t disagree but, Sadly, those black people who have done as you suggest are almost always derided as somehow being less black, simply because they offer encouragement to fellow blacks to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and work to achieve the American Dream.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on May 30, 2024 16:12:51 GMT -5
Touching on what I said earlier ignorance is a major problem. And the biggest problem with that is a good portion of it is willful. They don't know better because they don't want to know better. Where as the street thug is celebrated the educated man is jeered. If a man tries to build himself up in the black community the other crabs absolutely do not want to see him escape the pot. They coukd all escape by pushing each other and pulling each other up. But they won't they will absolutely all die in the same pot. That is foremost the problem that has to change. But if I'm being honest whites are not much better in that aspect. None of your peers want to see you do better. Especially better than them. I'm happy to see other succeed. What I do not like is after a little success they forget where they came from. It's easy to do. I graduated from a rather prestigious private school in my area. It's 90% Dr's and lawyers kids a few large buisness owners kids. And about 2-3% poor asses like me. I barely passed the entrance exam to get in. I'm pretty confident were it not for my ability to play football I would not have. One good thing about that school is upcoming 7th graders from the area are allowed to test for a scholarship. One of those who did so was a black kid a couple years younger than me. Greg lived in the projects with his mom. Don't know much about his dad. He never said anything about him and I didn't ask. But Greg's mom convinced him some how somewhere in that environment that his way out was education. So Greg was on scholarship. In order to stay on scholarship you had to maintain at least a B average. And the classes they teach are pretty advanced compared to the public schools. Some of the high school offerings are sophomore college level classes (don't worry I was in no danger of being in those classes as I struggled with 8th grade math) But anyway Greg hung in there did what he needed to do. When the word spread that he was in a private school and doing pretty well they absolutely ate him alive "uncle tom" "he thinks he better than us" "trying to be the white man's whatever" they harassed him, bullied him, just absolutely all kinds of shit. But he persevered. Graduated with honors. To me that is someone the community shoukd loo up to and be proud of but that is the exact opposite. And his experience isn't unique from what I have observed from my own eyes. I'm not a racist. I have my prejudices. And anybody who says they don't are lying. Each race of people has very shameful actions I'm their past. The whites have peope like Hitler. The Asians especially the Japanese the last century committed genocide rape and torture on an ungodly scale. But yet they have built great cultures and civilizations despite those things. Indians, (far east apaches) Pakis, even some Arabs have all done it. But the closer you get to Africa and Africans it starts going to shit. Which is a real shame. Because Africa is both beautiful and resource rich. It coukd be and shoukd be a shining star among humanity. But it's not. Why? Colonialism? I genuinely don't know. I just don't understand why as a whole the blacks can not get their shit together? When a crab does escape the pot the crabs hate him for it. But they fought him the entire way. So why would he want to return to that same community and try to build up the very ones who tried to destroy him and woukd gladly do so even then if they coukd. It's too complex for me I guess. I guess we'll just have to wait and see or wait till our creator slaughters it out. At this point that's the only chance the whole of humanity has
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Post by Captj on May 30, 2024 17:05:03 GMT -5
The same "good" people that our presumptive Republican presidential candidate embraced with their white power machinations have actively done everything in their power to segregate the black electorate with the purpose of retaining power in their localities and in turn thwarting not only black, but all minorities from better educations, living conditions, medical care, and I could go on. When interacting with blacks in the caribbean I've seen a total lack of racial tension, highly educated families, and successful businesses. In the Dutch Caribbean blacks are still being taken advantage of by the Dutch and European expats. I've had political leaders there describe the locals as having a slave mentality. Can say that after working I would go into a bar, be the only white person there and not feel any bad vibes.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 30, 2024 17:33:37 GMT -5
I don’t dislike anyone based on their race or ethnicity or religion. I dislike people who don’t respect civility. Oh please, the irony of a Trump supporter making that ridiculous claim.
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Post by conchydong on May 30, 2024 17:37:14 GMT -5
The same "good" people that our presumptive Republican presidential candidate embraced with their white power machinations have actively done everything in their power to segregate the black electorate with the purpose of retaining power in their localities and in turn thwarting not only black, but all minorities from better educations, living conditions, medical care, and I could go on. When interacting with blacks in the caribbean I've seen a total lack of racial tension, highly educated families, and successful businesses. In the Dutch Caribbean blacks are still being taken advantage of by the Dutch and European expats. I've had political leaders there describe the locals as having a slave mentality. Can say that after working I would go into a bar, be the only white person there and not feel any bad vibes. . Funny you should say that because on a recent trip to the Bahamas the “blacks” were pro Trump. The locals are also dealing with an immigration crisis from Haitians and aren’t to happy about it.
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Post by TRTerror on May 30, 2024 19:29:39 GMT -5
As someone who grew up in the hood and still visits the hood here's my thought on the subject. The streets police themselves and the streets take care of a lot of problems that law enforcement don't want to bother with. When the streets mess with folks that aren't involved with illegal activities that's when law enforcement steps in. I'm all for that and it's true...But , Thug hood has been leaving the Hood and now it's freakin Mainstream. When Jersey Shore , Miami , Ft' Lauderdale , Panama City and and others have to shut down Spring Break and other venues...Buffy Surburban Mom is getting Carjacked , Raped and Killed....something needs to be DONE. Something Drastic....
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Post by walkerdog on May 30, 2024 19:36:53 GMT -5
The same "good" people that our presumptive Republican presidential candidate embraced with their white power machinations have actively done everything in their power to segregate the black electorate with the purpose of retaining power in their localities and in turn thwarting not only black, but all minorities from better educations, living conditions, medical care, and I could go on. When interacting with blacks in the caribbean I've seen a total lack of racial tension, highly educated families, and successful businesses. In the Dutch Caribbean blacks are still being taken advantage of by the Dutch and European expats. I've had political leaders there describe the locals as having a slave mentality. Can say that after working I would go into a bar, be the only white person there and not feel any bad vibes. Pot, meet kettle……🙄
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Post by walkerdog on May 30, 2024 19:38:20 GMT -5
I don’t dislike anyone based on their race or ethnicity or religion. I dislike people who don’t respect civility. Oh please, the irony of a Trump supporter making that ridiculous claim. For you to even begin to make that claim, you’d have to know what civility was. Your comments here don’t demonstrate any such knowledge on your part.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 30, 2024 21:15:39 GMT -5
Oh please, the irony of a Trump supporter making that ridiculous claim. For you to even begin to make that claim, you’d have to know what civility was. Your comments here don’t demonstrate any such knowledge on your part. I’m not the uncivil fuck running for president
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Post by walkerdog on May 30, 2024 22:54:50 GMT -5
That’s only because you’re not running for president. The rest of your description fits you to a tee.😉
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Post by tonyroma on May 30, 2024 23:11:15 GMT -5
Touching on what I said earlier ignorance is a major problem. And the biggest problem with that is a good portion of it is willful. They don't know better because they don't want to know better. Where as the street thug is celebrated the educated man is jeered. If a man tries to build himself up in the black community the other crabs absolutely do not want to see him escape the pot. They coukd all escape by pushing each other and pulling each other up. But they won't they will absolutely all die in the same pot. That is foremost the problem that has to change. But if I'm being honest whites are not much better in that aspect. None of your peers want to see you do better. Especially better than them. I'm happy to see other succeed. What I do not like is after a little success they forget where they came from. It's easy to do. I graduated from a rather prestigious private school in my area. It's 90% Dr's and lawyers kids a few large buisness owners kids. And about 2-3% poor asses like me. I barely passed the entrance exam to get in. I'm pretty confident were it not for my ability to play football I would not have. One good thing about that school is upcoming 7th graders from the area are allowed to test for a scholarship. One of those who did so was a black kid a couple years younger than me. Greg lived in the projects with his mom. Don't know much about his dad. He never said anything about him and I didn't ask. But Greg's mom convinced him some how somewhere in that environment that his way out was education. So Greg was on scholarship. In order to stay on scholarship you had to maintain at least a B average. And the classes they teach are pretty advanced compared to the public schools. Some of the high school offerings are sophomore college level classes (don't worry I was in no danger of being in those classes as I struggled with 8th grade math) But anyway Greg hung in there did what he needed to do. When the word spread that he was in a private school and doing pretty well they absolutely ate him alive "uncle tom" "he thinks he better than us" "trying to be the white man's whatever" they harassed him, bullied him, just absolutely all kinds of shit. But he persevered. Graduated with honors. To me that is someone the community shoukd loo up to and be proud of but that is the exact opposite. And his experience isn't unique from what I have observed from my own eyes. I'm not a racist. I have my prejudices. And anybody who says they don't are lying. Each race of people has very shameful actions I'm their past. The whites have peope like Hitler. The Asians especially the Japanese the last century committed genocide rape and torture on an ungodly scale. But yet they have built great cultures and civilizations despite those things. Indians, (far east apaches) Pakis, even some Arabs have all done it. But the closer you get to Africa and Africans it starts going to shit. Which is a real shame. Because Africa is both beautiful and resource rich. It coukd be and shoukd be a shining star among humanity. But it's not. Why? Colonialism? I genuinely don't know. I just don't understand why as a whole the blacks can not get their shit together? When a crab does escape the pot the crabs hate him for it. But they fought him the entire way. So why would he want to return to that same community and try to build up the very ones who tried to destroy him and woukd gladly do so even then if they coukd. It's too complex for me I guess. I guess we'll just have to wait and see or wait till our creator slaughters it out. At this point that's the only chance the whole of humanity has love ya bro, but hit return once and a while😉These aging eyes would appreciate it.
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Post by biminitwisted on May 30, 2024 23:21:57 GMT -5
Baskets of deplorables don't get to speak of civility.
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