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Post by restlessnative on May 8, 2024 23:45:29 GMT -5
Talking out of my ass, I think the true deep water tiles live in mud holes in the deep water. Hopefully Conchy will wake up and tell us how you target a fish living in a mud hole in 300 foot of water. Yes on mud holes, 300 is too shallow for the most part. When I lived in SE FL and fished with the old school guys they didn’t even use numbers, just depth and landmarks, and never went home hungry. Most of those guys (or their kids) run big money traveling operations now, and kill it. I was lucky enough to work on a couple of those operations, they are so salty could catch a sword in a puddle.
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Post by anumber1 on May 9, 2024 4:46:46 GMT -5
Talking out of my ass, I think the true deep water tiles live in mud holes in the deep water. Hopefully Conchy will wake up and tell us how you target a fish living in a mud hole in 300 foot of water. yes find the mud, then find the small craters in the mud, there's gold in them craters
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Post by GaryS on May 9, 2024 5:54:28 GMT -5
Ya, that deep drop game seems like a whole different animal. Apparently Conchy is on it. Seems like a lot of time on the water and a good finder are imperative. I will tell you another story, same crew I fished with in the Keys.....we would go and illegally catch a bunch of small crawfish, lobster, and go and catch Cubera snappers. They'd eat a whole small crawfish. Hard to find with regularity. But let me tell you about a 40-50 lb Cubera snapper. Epic. When I was in high scholl I worked for Tylers restaurant. A.M. Tyler would come into the restaurant with his 24 foot Speedcraft with the fishbox full of Cubera Snapper. This was in 1971 maybe 72. He would have the morning prep guy clean them and then there would be a fish fry. 2.99 all you can eat.
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Post by Captj on May 9, 2024 6:46:21 GMT -5
Plenty of Tiles on both coasts from NY to Texas. Find the mud bottom in 400' out to a thousand feet and look around. My go to is around 6 -700' for goldens. Can catch them whenever I want, but it isn't worth it for one fish limit. They eat about the same as any deepwater grouper.
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Post by conchydong on May 9, 2024 7:02:43 GMT -5
Both Golden and Blueline (gray tile) opened in State waters May 1st, but Goldens are usually a bit deeper and found in Federal waters. Where I live, three miles out is about 550' deep. I have caught some Goldens within State waters but it is uncommon.
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Post by whitebacon on May 9, 2024 12:22:31 GMT -5
This is from November i think with my neighbor Probably 400' or deeper on a calm day outside the reef.
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Post by conchydong on May 9, 2024 12:45:18 GMT -5
This is from November i think with my neighbor Probably 400' or deeper on a calm day outside the reef. View AttachmentNice. Both the Queen and Pomfret are good eating. Usually they are found closer to the 1000' mark in this area but Belize may be different. The only Queens that I have caught were in the Bahamas but they get some off of Islamorada too. Pomfrets are often a bycatch while daytime Swording or Barrelfishing but not extremely common.
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Post by whitebacon on May 9, 2024 12:50:39 GMT -5
This is from November i think with my neighbor Probably 400' or deeper on a calm day outside the reef. View AttachmentNice. Both the Queen and Pomfret are good eating. Usually they are found closer to the 1000' mark in this area but Belize may be different. The only Queens that I have caught were in the Bahamas but they get some off of Islamorada too. Pomfrets are often a bycatch while daytime Swording or Barrelfishing but not extremely common. I say 400', I'm totally guessing. We were on my buddies boat, and he doesn't have a bottom machine. We could have easily been in 800 or 1000 feet, as it drops off so fast. We were probably only a two miles or less from the reef, but I'm just not good at guessing without a machine, in these waters.
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Post by nuevowavo on May 9, 2024 13:45:30 GMT -5
All of our queens have been in 800-1000'off West End (Grand Bahama). Never needed numbers, just find a rockpile and usually catch 'em. Not as big as the one in wb's pic, though. Nice fish.
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Post by johnnybandit on May 9, 2024 17:40:12 GMT -5
Of course we're tight. Hope you're not being a smartass. I have a problem with a couple of idiots here, you are certainly not one of them. No I am not being a smart ass... Despite you and I having some heated back and forth discussions.... I respect you and like you as a person.
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Post by conchydong on May 9, 2024 17:53:52 GMT -5
You have to love Bacon. He has the life that we sometimes wish for and other times do not. He is honest and up front about his situation and why he is in it. Not many people have the cojones to be so honest on a public forum.
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Post by mackeralsnatcher on May 10, 2024 2:56:29 GMT -5
Yep, dude definitely has balls and calls a spade a spade. He's gonna tell you how it is whether you like it or not. Very rare nowadays.
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