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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 24, 2024 9:14:19 GMT -5
Are the Democrats losing all of of their voting base?
First the Hispanics see the light.
Then the black voters realize that it’s the Democrats that are keeping them down and the Republicans are offering them a way up.
Now the gay and lesbian voters realize that the Democrats are scumbags just pandering to them for their votes.
Goodness, who is left supporting the Democrats. Just bigots and users?
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Post by cadman on Apr 24, 2024 9:44:11 GMT -5
Are the Democrats losing all of of their voting base? First the Hispanics see the light. Then the black voters realize that it’s the Democrats that are keeping them down and the Republicans are offering them a way up. Now the gay and lesbian voters realize that the Democrats are scumbags just pandering to them for their votes. Goodness, who is left supporting the Democrats. Just bigots and users? That's some funny shit there. Hate to tell you but the Democrats will get 85% of the black vote and 65% of hispanic vote as they have in years past. The gays aren't supporting Trump either. You read too much political spin in the stories you hear. They claimed Trump would get more black and hispanic vote in 2020 than 2016 and it was within 1% of the 2016 demographics and Hillary had Bill campaigning for her. Which party blacks and Hispanics vote for hasn't changed much except when Bill and Obama was running. They did get a higher percentage of the black vote, but only a 5% increase. Obama's numbers is where a lot of the media make the claim the Dem's are losing black voters. But even then, it is not a large percentage. The difference in the past two elections that involved Trump has been the moderate voter. Trump will carry about 85% of the conservative vote and Biden will carry 85% of the liberal vote. These groups don't vary much in who they support. The key to winning the election is the moderate voter. Trump carried 40% of this electorate in 2016 and only 34% in 2020. If he can't swing at least 40% to his side in 2024, he will lose again. Infighting among Republicans where the far right keeps alienating the moderate Republicans is not helping his cause. He needs to move center right, figure out to bring the moderate Republicans back into the fold or he is going to lose in November. I think Trump's biggest problem will be a lot of moderate Republicans will sit this election out and not vote. I expect the Democratic turnout will be huge. Democrats usually have a 1% to 2% advantage in voter turnout so Independents are the key to winning the election for Republicans. They are also 40% of the voters. Biden carried 54% of the independent vote in 2020. Clinton only carried 42% in 2016.
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Post by meateater on Apr 24, 2024 10:04:16 GMT -5
Are the Democrats losing all of of their voting base? First the Hispanics see the light. Then the black voters realize that it’s the Democrats that are keeping them down and the Republicans are offering them a way up. Now the gay and lesbian voters realize that the Democrats are scumbags just pandering to them for their votes. Goodness, who is left supporting the Democrats. Just bigots and users? That's some funny shit there. Hate to tell you but the Democrats will get 85% of the black vote and 65% of hispanic vote as they have in years past. The gays aren't supporting Trump either. You read too much political spin in the stories you hear. They claimed Trump would get more black and hispanic vote in 2020 than 2016 and it was within 1% of the 2016 demographics and Hillary had Bill campaigning for her. Which party blacks and Hispanics vote for hasn't changed much except when Bill and Obama was running. They did get a higher percentage of the black vote, but only a 5% increase. Obama's numbers is where a lot of the media make the claim the Dem's are losing black voters. But even then, it is not a large percentage. The difference in the past two elections that involved Trump has been the moderate voter. Trump will carry about 85% of the conservative vote and Biden will carry 85% of the liberal vote. These groups don't vary much in who they support. The key to winning the election is the moderate voter. Trump carried 40% of this electorate in 2016 and only 34% in 2020. If he can't swing at least 40% to his side in 2024, he will lose again. Infighting among Republicans where the far right keeps alienating the moderate Republicans is not helping his cause. He needs to move center right, figure out to bring the moderate Republicans back into the fold or he is going to lose in November. I think Trump's biggest problem will be a lot of moderate Republicans will sit this election out and not vote. I expect the Democratic turnout will be huge. Democrats usually have a 1% to 2% advantage in voter turnout so Independents are the key to winning the election for Republicans. They are also 40% of the voters. Biden carried 54% of the independent vote in 2020. Clinton only carried 42% in 2016. dont get all sensitive and gay im just asking a question and i want a truthful answer from you not some bullshit internet story. you say voter turnout will be huge for biden. why, what exactly has he done that would make blacks,whites,latinos poor to middle class rush out and be excited to vote for biden. i understand why upper middle class and wealthy people will still vote for him. besides abortion i cant think of 1 solid reason other then trumps a dick.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 24, 2024 10:12:26 GMT -5
They are hanging their hats abortion and the absolute fact that “Trumps a dick”.
Unfortunately they are dismissing voters as dumb facks. Voters are becoming more intelligent every year. They see through the Dem BS. They are going to vote for what is best for them and what is best for America. I really believe that the Democrat party is nearly finished. The party loyalists will become independents and whatever new party may emerge.
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Post by cadman on Apr 24, 2024 10:21:49 GMT -5
That's some funny shit there. Hate to tell you but the Democrats will get 85% of the black vote and 65% of hispanic vote as they have in years past. The gays aren't supporting Trump either. You read too much political spin in the stories you hear. They claimed Trump would get more black and hispanic vote in 2020 than 2016 and it was within 1% of the 2016 demographics and Hillary had Bill campaigning for her. Which party blacks and Hispanics vote for hasn't changed much except when Bill and Obama was running. They did get a higher percentage of the black vote, but only a 5% increase. Obama's numbers is where a lot of the media make the claim the Dem's are losing black voters. But even then, it is not a large percentage. The difference in the past two elections that involved Trump has been the moderate voter. Trump will carry about 85% of the conservative vote and Biden will carry 85% of the liberal vote. These groups don't vary much in who they support. The key to winning the election is the moderate voter. Trump carried 40% of this electorate in 2016 and only 34% in 2020. If he can't swing at least 40% to his side in 2024, he will lose again. Infighting among Republicans where the far right keeps alienating the moderate Republicans is not helping his cause. He needs to move center right, figure out to bring the moderate Republicans back into the fold or he is going to lose in November. I think Trump's biggest problem will be a lot of moderate Republicans will sit this election out and not vote. I expect the Democratic turnout will be huge. Democrats usually have a 1% to 2% advantage in voter turnout so Independents are the key to winning the election for Republicans. They are also 40% of the voters. Biden carried 54% of the independent vote in 2020. Clinton only carried 42% in 2016. dont get all sensitive and gay im just asking a question and i want a truthful answer from you not some bullshit internet story. you say voter turnout will be huge for biden. why, what exactly has he done that would make blacks,whites,latinos poor to middle class rush out and be excited to vote for biden. i understand why upper middle class and wealthy people will still vote for him. besides abortion i cant think of 1 solid reason other then trumps a dick. I said DEMOCRATIC turnout will be huge. This will benefit Biden indirectly. The abortion issue will be part of the reason that Democratic turnout will be huge. another reason will be Trump is a dick. I doubt very many are rah rah for Biden, but 95% of Democrats have and will vote a Democratic ticket, just as 95% of Republicans will vote a Republican ticket. Who the candidate is doesn't matter to them, it is the party line they vote and not the candidate. If other issues or candidates get them to polls, Biden will benefit. In Florida, cannabis will also bring more Democratic and young liberal voters to the polls, one reason the Biden campaign has targeted Florida as a state to go after. I doubt they succeed, but the campaign sees potential due to the issues on the ballot bringing out voters that lean their way. Democratic turnout has been strong the past couple of elections and I see no reason for it to drop now. Candidates usually carry 95% of their respective party voters. So if the Democratic turnout is strong, as I suspect it will be, Biden should carry 95% of that vote. That number does not vary much in elections. The party followers are usually pretty loyal. I doubt that changes in this election. That means Democrats will be 37% of the voters and 95% weill vote Biden. Republicans will be between 33% and 36% and Trump will get 95% of those votes. A lot will depend on how many Moderate Republicans decide to sit this election out. That means the remaining 30% to 35% of independent voters will decide the election.
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Post by cadman on Apr 24, 2024 10:23:13 GMT -5
They are hanging their hats abortion and the absolute fact that “Trumps a dick”. Unfortunately they are dismissing voters as dumb facks. Voters are becoming more intelligent every year. They see through the Dem BS. They are going to vote for what is best for them and what is best for America. I really believe that the Democrat party is nearly finished. The party loyalists will become independents and whatever new party may emerge. Voters are dumb fucks, they elected Biden in 2020. How much more evidence do you need?
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 24, 2024 12:29:22 GMT -5
Amazing how SNL and all the Libs used to love Donald Trump. and black folks, the word trump is the most used word in rap songs second only to ni--74 Now people just say DEI instead
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