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Apr 14, 2024 14:56:45 GMT -5
Post by biminitwisted on Apr 14, 2024 14:56:45 GMT -5
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Apr 14, 2024 14:58:23 GMT -5
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 14, 2024 14:58:23 GMT -5
For one, I believe you’re actually right on this one! I don’t recall Biden ever saying that he wouldn’t let his administration drag us into yet another war. Thanks for the reminder. Who can even remember which wars were happening during Trump's time? Or better yet, who can even remember who drug us into them. Not you, apparently. |
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Apr 14, 2024 14:59:05 GMT -5
Post by biminitwisted on Apr 14, 2024 14:59:05 GMT -5
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Apr 14, 2024 15:14:49 GMT -5
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 14, 2024 15:14:49 GMT -5
I’d want to change the subject too, if I were you.
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Apr 14, 2024 15:21:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2024 15:21:58 GMT -5
Iran needs to be changed back to a democracy. The religious zealots running this country need to be eliminated. I would hope the people of the country would then be able to put a government in that is representative of their values and beliefs.
We need to stay out of the transformation process although we may need to start it off.
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Apr 15, 2024 12:54:21 GMT -5
Post by luapnor on Apr 15, 2024 12:54:21 GMT -5
Iran needs to be changed back to a democracy. The religious zealots running this country need to be eliminated. I would hope the people of the country would then be able to put a government in that is representative of their values and beliefs. We need to stay out of the transformation process although we may need to start it off. Everything we do to Iran only solidifies their control. Once a country stops fearing the outside world, they begin to want to make changes to the inside world. |
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Post by Captj on Apr 16, 2024 4:57:21 GMT -5
Most of Iran's population lives in the stone age. What we as westerners don't understand is that our values and way of life is an alien concept to these people.
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Apr 16, 2024 6:08:00 GMT -5
Post by luapnor on Apr 16, 2024 6:08:00 GMT -5
Most of Iran's population lives in the stone age. What we as westerners don't understand is that our values and way of life is an alien concept to these people. If that is what you think, you are an idiot. |
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Apr 16, 2024 8:28:59 GMT -5
Post by ferris1248 on Apr 16, 2024 8:28:59 GMT -5
Ahhhh........the name calling. Kinda like kindergarten.
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Apr 16, 2024 9:01:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2024 9:01:51 GMT -5
I’m sure the people of Iran would rather live under the despot installed by the western nations than what they have now
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 16, 2024 9:26:54 GMT -5
Iranians are pretty modern and secular behind closed doors. They almost overthrew the mullahs. But then Obama happened and he pulled the plug on American support for the uprising.
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Apr 16, 2024 9:45:28 GMT -5
Post by meateater on Apr 16, 2024 9:45:28 GMT -5
Most of Iran's population lives in the stone age. What we as westerners don't understand is that our values and way of life is an alien concept to these people. yea yea, look at the great usa, everyone should be just like us, our way is the right way and only way, we have it so together with our diversity and inclusion. peace and love flowing throughout the nation, |
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Apr 16, 2024 9:49:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2024 9:49:58 GMT -5
Didn’t Obama seem strangely supportive of everything Muslim? His attitude was different and definitely not in Americas best interests.
But oh well. They elected him twice.
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Apr 16, 2024 9:50:32 GMT -5
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Apr 16, 2024 9:50:32 GMT -5
Iranians are pretty modern and secular behind closed doors. They almost overthrew the mullahs. But then Obama happened and he pulled the plug on American support for the uprising. I have said this before. Iran is not Iraq and several other countries in the region with poorly trained military and antique weaponry. No they are not a 21st century fighting force but they do have a lot more discipline and military ability than some. And there has definitely been strides made in reform or overthrow of the mullahs. If Obama did in fact "pull the plug" on supporting Iranian dissidents he probably had reason to. Reason being we probably did not want to create a power vacuum in Iran that would gladly be filled by ISIS. Who Iran and most of the semicivalized Arab world fear. |
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Apr 16, 2024 9:53:38 GMT -5
Most of Iran's population lives in the stone age. What we as westerners don't understand is that our values and way of life is an alien concept to these people. I don't think they do. Despite heavy policing and internet blackouts they are fairly modern. Before the Revolution they were in fact quite liberal. Religious fundamentalist and zealots of all faiths would love to take us back the middle ages when their church of choice was in power and at its most barbaric. |
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Apr 16, 2024 9:53:42 GMT -5
Post by meateater on Apr 16, 2024 9:53:42 GMT -5
Ahhhh........the name calling. Kinda like kindergarten. your mama is so |
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Apr 16, 2024 9:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2024 9:56:31 GMT -5
Ahhhh........the name calling. Kinda like kindergarten. your mama is so 🤣😂😜 |
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Post by Captj on Apr 16, 2024 10:01:45 GMT -5
Most of Iran's population lives in the stone age. What we as westerners don't understand is that our values and way of life is an alien concept to these people. If that is what you think, you are an idiot. Thank you! But I must relate that back in '68 I had a roommate from Persia (now Iran for those of you who don't know), and he would sleep on the floor and keep food in his draw not being familiar with refrigerators. He and his friends were engineering students. My bookkeeper for many years was a Pakistani with a charter accountant degree (cpa in their country), a devout Muslim with no real knowledge of the western society. He learned though. As to the idiot part, look in the mirror please. |
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Apr 16, 2024 10:27:03 GMT -5
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 16, 2024 10:27:03 GMT -5
Iranians are pretty modern and secular behind closed doors. They almost overthrew the mullahs. But then Obama happened and he pulled the plug on American support for the uprising. I have said this before. Iran is not Iraq and several other countries in the region with poorly trained military and antique weaponry. No they are not a 21st century fighting force but they do have a lot more discipline and military ability than some. And there has definitely been strides made in reform or overthrow of the mullahs. If Obama did in fact "pull the plug" on supporting Iranian dissidents he probably had reason to. Reason being we probably did not want to create a power vacuum in Iran that would gladly be filled by ISIS. Who Iran and most of the semicivalized Arab world fear. ISIS didn’t exist at the time. It was right before the Arab spring. Obama did not believe the Iranian theocracy was as big of a threat as most did and do. He thought they were misunderstood and villainized. Obama thought the same about the Muslim Brotherhood (Hamas) and thus the reason Obama instigated the Arab Spring that tried to install Muslim Brotherhood governments across the Middle East. I don’t necessarily think Obama thinks the same now. At the time he was the product of -academia. The same academia that I sat under. His stances on Islamist movements was the same as most liberal professors in the US. They were misunderstood boogymen that weren’t as bad as they seemed, as far as the academics were concerned. |
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Post by meateater on Apr 16, 2024 10:30:05 GMT -5
Didn’t Obama seem strangely supportive of everything Muslim? His attitude was different and definitely not in Americas best interests. But oh well. They elected him twice. i have been around lots of muslims, worked with a couple dozen, 3 or 4 i would trust with my kids lives, one thing most of them had in common, they hated obama. depends on what area of the middle east you live i guess , remember obama was the drone strike king and nobodys even close to his numbers. one of the reasons i showed him respect and kept my other criticisms to myself. he,s a lot of things but muslim aint one. |
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Apr 16, 2024 11:04:39 GMT -5
Post by cyclist on Apr 16, 2024 11:04:39 GMT -5
Didn’t Obama seem strangely supportive of everything Muslim? His attitude was different and definitely not in Americas best interests. But oh well. They elected him twice. No, it's just the right wingers are idiots, we talk this kinda BS talk. |
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Apr 16, 2024 11:23:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2024 11:23:28 GMT -5
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Apr 16, 2024 16:50:22 GMT -5
Post by Captj on Apr 16, 2024 16:50:22 GMT -5
What's the matter Loopy? Putin got your tongue?
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Apr 16, 2024 16:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by luapnor on Apr 16, 2024 16:53:36 GMT -5
What's the matter Loopy? Putin got your tongue? And you wonder why I call you an idiot. You and your cronies then act shocked when it's returned. Don't forget who starts the name calling when you run out of valid arguments. |
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Apr 16, 2024 17:43:32 GMT -5
Post by chronicbreak on Apr 16, 2024 17:43:32 GMT -5
If that is what you think, you are an idiot. Thank you! But I must relate that back in '68 I had a roommate from Persia (now Iran for those of you who don't know), and he would sleep on the floor and keep food in his draw not being familiar with refrigerators. He and his friends were engineering students. My bookkeeper for many years was a Pakistani with a charter accountant degree (cpa in their country), a devout Muslim with no real knowledge of the western society. He learned though. As to the idiot part, look in the mirror please. Are you relating an experience from 1968? |
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Apr 17, 2024 8:46:28 GMT -5
Post by ferris1248 on Apr 17, 2024 8:46:28 GMT -5
The US helped thwart Iran's unprecedented attack on Israel over the weekend, using F-15s and F-16s, missiles from a Patriot air-defense system, and two US Navy destroyers in the Mediterranean.
Iran and allied militias in Yemen launched a barrage of 120 ballistic missiles, 30 cruise missiles, and 170 attack drones on Israel in a massive escalation of the Middle East crisis over the weekend.
Israeli officials said the US and allied forces from the UK, France, and Jordan, with support from Israel's Iron Dome and Arrow-3 systems, intercepted 99% of Iran's munitions.
However, US officials told CBS News and The Wall Street Journal that about half of Iran's ballistic missiles malfunctioned and failed to launch.
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Apr 17, 2024 9:14:58 GMT -5
Post by tampaspicer on Apr 17, 2024 9:14:58 GMT -5
However, US officials told CBS News and The Wall Street Journal that about half of Iran's ballistic missiles malfunctioned and failed to launch. LMAO and their ballistic missiles are supposed to be the best of their military technology. |
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Apr 17, 2024 9:41:15 GMT -5
Post by luapnor on Apr 17, 2024 9:41:15 GMT -5
They havent had a lot of experience launching missiles so it isnt surprising. How is our hypersonic missile working out? Seems it would be stupid to think they cant adjust and sort out the problems and foolish to underestimate them.
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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 17, 2024 10:23:46 GMT -5
Iran ain't shit
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 17, 2024 10:47:50 GMT -5
They havent had a lot of experience launching missiles so it isnt surprising. How is our hypersonic missile working out? Seems it would be stupid to think they cant adjust and sort out the problems and foolish to underestimate them. If you’re saying they can be dangerous if given the chance to learn from their failures, then you’re making the case as to why they should be preemptively destroyed. |
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