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Post by bswiv on Apr 13, 2024 5:41:38 GMT -5
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Post by cadman on Apr 13, 2024 6:29:47 GMT -5
I hope the state you live in has a good inspection program to keep the slaughterhouses clean.
It sounds like a good bill and I know the problems of too many different agencies inspecting you, each with their own opinion of what is required to pass their inspection. In Florida, the Department of Agriculture does a good job and I would trust them to properly inspect small slaughterhouses. Not sure that would be true for every state, but that ain't my problem.
I was not aware individuals could not buy shares of live animals. That seems kind of a strange law.
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 13, 2024 6:47:53 GMT -5
Big corporations and the government do not want farmers to sell their products direct to consumers. Instead they want meat and veggies to pour in UNINSPECTED from all over the world. Sadly the beef industry has been on this trip for decades
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Post by Captj on Apr 16, 2024 5:18:44 GMT -5
Big corporations and the government do not want farmers to sell their products direct to consumers. Instead they want meat and veggies to pour in UNINSPECTED from all over the world. Sadly the beef industry has been on this trip for decades That's what happens when you let foreign players take over your food sources. Brazil owns most of the major meat packing houses in Australia and the US. China owns Smithfield who owns IBP. Great for export dollars, not so good for the smaller packers. The Federal Inspection Program is a joke, and Florida's Dept of AG not much better. I worked under both. |
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Post by bswiv on Apr 16, 2024 5:28:44 GMT -5
Big corporations and the government do not want farmers to sell their products direct to consumers. Instead they want meat and veggies to pour in UNINSPECTED from all over the world. Sadly the beef industry has been on this trip for decades That's what happens when you let foreign players take over your food sources. Brazil owns most of the major meat packing houses in Australia and the US. China owns Smithfield who owns IBP. Great for export dollars, not so good for the smaller packers. The Federal Inspection Program is a joke, and Florida's Dept of AG not much better. I worked under both. Which means we allow farmers and local slaughter houses to produce and sell............. |
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Post by linemannf on Apr 16, 2024 5:48:56 GMT -5
I'm a small producer with 21 head of momma cows and I have never seen prices as high on yearlings as high as it is right now, for the past 7 years thru ups and downs on the market I would get anywhere from $500-900 for a 500 pound steer, for the past 6 months that same animal has been bringing me about $1,500 and sometimes a little more. I have been told that all the foreign corporations have to do is for example mix is in some fat from US beef into all that stuff that they import in from Brazil/South America and they can label it and sell it as US beef, I am thankful that I have the ability to fatten me a steer out to butcher once a year, I know exactly where he has been and what he has been fed and what he has NOT had shot in him to accellerate his growth.
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Post by richm on Apr 16, 2024 6:45:54 GMT -5
I'm a small producer with 21 head of momma cows and I have never seen prices as high on yearlings as high as it is right now, for the past 7 years thru ups and downs on the market I would get anywhere from $500-900 for a 500 pound steer, for the past 6 months that same animal has been bringing me about $1,500 and sometimes a little more. I have been told that all the foreign corporations have to do is for example mix is in some fat from US beef into all that stuff that they import in from Brazil/South America and they can label it and sell it as US beef, I am thankful that I have the ability to fatten me a steer out to butcher once a year, I know exactly where he has been and what he has been fed and what he has NOT had shot in him to accellerate his growth. I have a buddy who keeps 10-20 head and sells some here and there, we try to buy when he sells. He'll let us shoot the select cow and quarter it in the back corner. The buzzards clean the rest up in a matter of a few hours. Anyway, we had been doing $500 a pop and then last December it was to be $1,000 and he asked if we wanted 1 or 2 as we had mentioned buying 2. Told him 1 and he sold both to another guy standing there with $2,000 cash. Anyway, he sent me an article where Okeechobee processing plant - someone paid like $4.75/pound for a cow on the hoof recently. Have looked at the "organic" cows on the market and 1/2 cow processed stuff is like $2,500 for roughly 200# with 115# being burger... Told wife, no way are we paying that much for a cow that they didn't do anything with other than label "organic". Cheaper to buy the greenwise cuts at publix. |
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Post by Mango Man on Apr 16, 2024 7:43:51 GMT -5
Glad I eat very little red meat now.
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Post by gandy on Apr 16, 2024 7:50:11 GMT -5
I thought O' did away with beef COOL requirements?
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Post by Captj on Apr 16, 2024 10:32:21 GMT -5
A little more has to be done with beef cattle at/after slaughter than kill and cut. Skinning, chilling, shrouding, breaking down into primal and subprimal cuts. Packaging, boxing, sales and shipping. Also Packers and Stockyards Act demanded payment at time of purchase if prior terms had not been in place. Don't know if it still is in effect. The meat is tracked all the way to the meat counter and that costs as well. Corn prices, feedlot fees, vet bills, and transportation also factor in. I'm surprised that we can afford to eat any meat processed here. Oh, USDA also gets their piece of the action. I'm sure I left out some other cost factors.
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Post by richm on Apr 16, 2024 11:29:56 GMT -5
A little more has to be done with beef cattle at/after slaughter than kill and cut. Skinning, chilling, shrouding, breaking down into primal and subprimal cuts. Packaging, boxing, sales and shipping. Also Packers and Stockyards Act demanded payment at time of purchase if prior terms had not been in place. Don't know if it still is in effect. The meat is tracked all the way to the meat counter and that costs as well. Corn prices, feedlot fees, vet bills, and transportation also factor in. I'm surprised that we can afford to eat any meat processed here. Oh, USDA also gets their piece of the action. I'm sure I left out some other cost factors. Exactly. Processing is expensive if done on a small scale. We went out west couple years back and seen some very large cattle operations - bulk costing makes a diff. |
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Post by cyclist on Apr 16, 2024 11:40:13 GMT -5
We buy 5 pounds of ground chuck (single cow) once a month from a place about 20 miles away. 8$ a pound.
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Post by linemannf on Apr 16, 2024 12:05:25 GMT -5
A little more has to be done with beef cattle at/after slaughter than kill and cut. Skinning, chilling, shrouding, breaking down into primal and subprimal cuts. Packaging, boxing, sales and shipping. Also Packers and Stockyards Act demanded payment at time of purchase if prior terms had not been in place. Don't know if it still is in effect. The meat is tracked all the way to the meat counter and that costs as well. Corn prices, feedlot fees, vet bills, and transportation also factor in. I'm surprised that we can afford to eat any meat processed here. Oh, USDA also gets their piece of the action. I'm sure I left out some other cost factors. Most butcher shops up this way charge a $100 slaughter fee and $1.00 per pound of hanging weight to cut up, wrap and freeze, when you carry your yearling to them, to get good marveling in the meat I have found 90 days on grain or finisher in conjunction with all the grass they want, I let mine hang for 10 to 14 days prior to cutting up and wrapping. |
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Post by swampdog on Apr 16, 2024 15:12:25 GMT -5
If only I still had a pasture and a cow… I buy from a local mom and pop market these days.
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Post by conchydong on Apr 16, 2024 15:15:54 GMT -5
We buy 5 pounds of ground chuck (single cow) once a month from a place about 20 miles away. 8$ a pound. So the cow was named “Chuck “? Never name a animal that you want to harvest. |
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