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Post by cyclist on Aug 19, 2024 21:18:16 GMT -5
Tax bicyclists.... they freeload on the asphalt. They suck as citizens of the highway. Actually roads last longer because of cyclists...less wear and tear and bike lanes keep the road edges from crumbling due to idiots in cars. The first paved roads in America were by and for cyclists. You're welcome.
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Post by mapper on Aug 19, 2024 21:52:34 GMT -5
Fuel taxes should support roads. It does not matter if gas, diesel,hydrogen, CNG, LPG, biodiesel, alternative fuels, or ELECTRONS.
If electrons it does not matter where or which charger is used.
If it is a fuel that is used to power a vehicle it needs to be equally distributed.
Think of the boats and generators and lawn equipment that pays fuel taxes for roads they don't use.
Otherwise get rid of all vehicle fuel taxes and base it on registration, but be fair about it for all.
This will never happen though, a government entity getting rid of a revenue stream just does not happen.
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Post by cadman on Aug 20, 2024 4:52:17 GMT -5
There have been several proposals. One is a fee added to the registration fee based on miles driven. Another possibility would be a surcharge added to the charging stations electrical use, I think this is the most likely in the future. Just like the taxes added to telephone and cable bills. it would also be simple since it could be charged on kilowatt used. Ok but what about the people that charge their vehicles at home? Are they going to tax all electric bills to cover road maintenance? Are we all going to wind up paying for roads on our electric bills? There has to be a plan. I fear the American public will be screwed again As I said, another idea was a surcharge to the registration. The Fed and the state will find a way to collect the road tax, they always do. The feds would have to do it with a tax on electricity, could just be a tax on all electrical use. 99% of americans use the roads in some method, whether car, public transportation, or bicycles.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 20, 2024 7:48:26 GMT -5
Right. So it would be fair to tax a family that is driving a gasoline car on their electric bill to subsidize electric vehicles usage?
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Post by dragonbait on Aug 20, 2024 8:00:43 GMT -5
Fuel taxes should support roads. It does not matter if gas, diesel,hydrogen, CNG, LPG, biodiesel, alternative fuels, or ELECTRONS. If electrons it does not matter where or which charger is used. If it is a fuel that is used to power a vehicle it needs to be equally distributed. Think of the boats and generators and lawn equipment that pays fuel taxes for roads they don't use. Otherwise get rid of all vehicle fuel taxes and base it on registration, but be fair about it for all. This will never happen though, a government entity getting rid of a revenue stream just does not happen. There is no road tax on marine diesel, I’m not sure about the gas
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Post by cyclist on Aug 20, 2024 10:01:41 GMT -5
Right. So it would be fair to tax a family that is driving a gasoline car on their electric bill to subsidize electric vehicles usage? Versus everyone that subsidizes actual oil companies that are making record profits as opposed to actual consumers buying a product.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 20, 2024 10:03:45 GMT -5
Duhhhh
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 20, 2024 11:05:29 GMT -5
"Trump then said he had "no choice" but to back electric vehicles as part of his campaign "because Elon endorsed me very strongly" despite previously calling for EV supporters to "rot in hell."
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Post by luapnor on Aug 20, 2024 12:22:04 GMT -5
Tax bicyclists.... they freeload on the asphalt. They suck as citizens of the highway. Actually roads last longer because of cyclists...less wear and tear and bike lanes keep the road edges from crumbling due to idiots in cars. The first paved roads in America were by and for cyclists. You're welcome. Free loader... bicyclists are an extremely inefficient use of roads. They cause accidents and create unsafe conditions. Their riders are the worst citizens on the roads.
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Post by cyclist on Aug 20, 2024 12:54:43 GMT -5
Actually roads last longer because of cyclists...less wear and tear and bike lanes keep the road edges from crumbling due to idiots in cars. The first paved roads in America were by and for cyclists. You're welcome. Free loader... bicyclists are an extremely inefficient use of roads. They cause accidents and create unsafe conditions. Their riders are the worst citizens on the roads. LOL. why do fat old men always say this, especially when stuck in traffic.
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Post by tampaspicer on Aug 20, 2024 13:10:28 GMT -5
"Trump then said he had "no choice" but to back electric vehicles as part of his campaign "because Elon endorsed me very strongly" despite previously calling for EV supporters to "rot in hell." FOLLOW THE MONEY
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 20, 2024 13:33:35 GMT -5
Free loader... bicyclists are an extremely inefficient use of roads. They cause accidents and create unsafe conditions. Their riders are the worst citizens on the roads. LOL. why do fat old men always say this, especially when stuck in traffic. They need to HTFU
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Post by luapnor on Aug 20, 2024 14:10:02 GMT -5
Free loader... bicyclists are an extremely inefficient use of roads. They cause accidents and create unsafe conditions. Their riders are the worst citizens on the roads. LOL. why do fat old men always say this, especially when stuck in traffic. Why does everyone hate cyclists? Maybe it is because you are a good representative of cyclist mentality.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 20, 2024 17:21:12 GMT -5
The most aggravating thing on the road is a dipstick on a bicycle peddling along slowing traffic that you have to make sure you don’t hit.
They need to put them on the sidewalks with the rest of the children or make it their fault if they get hit while riding in traffic.
They need to keep their toys off of the road
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Post by Captj on Aug 20, 2024 18:43:19 GMT -5
Actually roads last longer because of cyclists...less wear and tear and bike lanes keep the road edges from crumbling due to idiots in cars. The first paved roads in America were by and for cyclists. You're welcome. Free loader... bicyclists are an extremely inefficient use of roads. They cause accidents and create unsafe conditions. Their riders are the worst citizens on the roads. And I thought your were just a Russian Bot, but it appears that you're just a complete ....... You can fill in the blank. Free Loader? Now you hate cyclists too? FYI It's the car drivers with an attitude like yours that cause the unsafe conditions.
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