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Post by jsd on Aug 14, 2024 15:54:42 GMT -5
Cradle to grave no contest...evs win by a mile. Maybe in the future it will but not yet. I would love to see a more efficient environmentally friendly fuel for the world's needs. I mean who wouldn't but it just doesn't exist yet.
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Post by Captj on Aug 14, 2024 16:19:03 GMT -5
Cradle to grave no contest...evs win by a mile. Maybe in the future it will but not yet. I would love to see a more efficient environmentally friendly fuel for the world's needs. I mean who wouldn't but it just doesn't exist yet. Actually it does exist and the battery technology is growing by leaps and bounds daily.
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Post by jsd on Aug 14, 2024 17:50:43 GMT -5
Maybe in the future it will but not yet. I would love to see a more efficient environmentally friendly fuel for the world's needs. I mean who wouldn't but it just doesn't exist yet. Actually it does exist and the battery technology is growing by leaps and bounds daily. I agree the battery industry is growing. To suggest that this world can function without oil now is crazy. Batteries won't be able to power the world anytime soon. Yall can believe what you want but I have a sneaky feeling this has never been about the environment. If it was they would be a bit more honest about the impacts of mining these materials. They use some of the largest diesel powered earth moving equipment known to man. One day of operation puts out more Co2 in one day than you will probably produce in a lifetime. The retention ponds are leaching huge amounts of toxins into our planet. In most cases oil is burned to produce the power to charge your battery. Then the whole environment side of recycling these batteries. I get it nothing is perfect but at least be upfront about it instead of just saying it's GREEN. Out of site out of mind. Yes I agree we need to explore better energy option but the alternative just doesn't exist. Look at toyota and whatever that company in Finland is doing with Hydrogen. Low emissions renewable energy in an ICE engine. Still many years away from implication or market. Batteries may get their but no where close to make the change.
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Post by jsd on Aug 14, 2024 17:52:11 GMT -5
And heck if batteries are so awsome why are all these auto manufacturers losing their tail on em.
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Post by mapper on Aug 14, 2024 18:25:54 GMT -5
Alternative fuel will play a important role, there are lots of ice engines that will need a role that ev can't provide easily or as effectively. There may be others looking into this. Alternative fuel-porsche
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 18:43:53 GMT -5
And heck if batteries are so awsome why are all these auto manufacturers losing their tail on em. They all are not. Untrue.
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Post by jsd on Aug 14, 2024 19:10:53 GMT -5
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Post by jsd on Aug 14, 2024 19:13:58 GMT -5
Alternative fuel will play a important role, there are lots of ice engines that will need a role that ev can't provide easily or as effectively. There may be others looking into this. Alternative fuel-porscheGood article. Thanks
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Post by luapnor on Aug 14, 2024 19:26:58 GMT -5
Cradle to grave no contest...evs win by a mile. If that were actually true, then you are the biggest hypocrite in this forum for not switching 100% EV. You are killing the planet according to your own words for not embracing the least planet solution.
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Post by mapper on Aug 14, 2024 19:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 20:36:16 GMT -5
Cradle to grave no contest...evs win by a mile. If that were actually true, then you are the biggest hypocrite in this forum for not switching 100% EV. You are killing the planet according to your own words for not embracing the least planet solution. I drive 30 year vehicles that run on biodiesel(since 2003) made from waste veggie oil from a local restaurant. That beats a new EV and normally aspirated ICE any day.
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 20:37:41 GMT -5
Maybe they tapped ino the trillions of oil subsidies...which have existed for what...almost a millenia.
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Post by mapper on Aug 14, 2024 21:33:29 GMT -5
Try clicking on the link...3 posts above..in my previous post.
It *may* be educational.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 15, 2024 0:04:59 GMT -5
This may be a stupid question but do vehicles run cleaner on natural gas?
The gas companies around here all run their fleets on CNG
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Post by luapnor on Aug 15, 2024 6:03:08 GMT -5
If that were actually true, then you are the biggest hypocrite in this forum for not switching 100% EV. You are killing the planet according to your own words for not embracing the least planet solution. I drive 30 year vehicles that run on biodiesel(since 2003) made from waste veggie oil from a local restaurant. That beats a new EV and normally aspirated ICE any day. So you lied?
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