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Post by luapnor on Jun 23, 2024 14:02:43 GMT -5
why will the prices drop, have we made some kinda deal with china i didnt read about. just like all tech, the prices drop the longer it’s around. Remember how expensive a 60inch flat screen TV used to be. Did the government make flat screens cheaper for rich guys at the expense of the working class?
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 23, 2024 14:28:34 GMT -5
No
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Post by conchydong on Jun 23, 2024 14:52:19 GMT -5
why will the prices drop, have we made some kinda deal with china i didnt read about. just like all tech, the prices drop the longer it’s around. Remember how expensive a 60inch flat screen TV used to be. And how many of those 60” TVs are made in America? Kinda goes back to what meateater was saying about China.
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Post by olmucky on Jun 27, 2024 5:03:43 GMT -5
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 27, 2024 5:49:38 GMT -5
Which makes the chart an eye opener. There is panic developing in the auto world over the investment in EV manufacturing. These SOBs are panicking their ass off. LOL "Volkswagen announced it intends to work with Rivian to create “next generation software-defined vehicle (SDV) architectures” to be used in both companies’ future EVs. The joint venture will use Rivian’s “zonal hardware design” and platform as the foundation of future vehicles, as well as Rivian’s electrical architecture expertise for the vehicles. Rivian will license its existing IP rights to the joint venture." "In exchange, Volkswagen will invest an initial $1 billion in Rivian through an “unsecured convertible note that will convert into Rivian’s common stock,” with up to $4 billion in additional investment staged through 2026 for a total infusion of $5 billion." "Irving, Calif.-based Rivian's shares closed up 23.2% on Wednesday." finance.yahoo.com/news/rivian-stock-soars-as-volkswagen-says-it-will-invest-up-to-5-billion-in-new-joint-venture-210921047.html
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Post by olmucky on Jun 27, 2024 7:16:50 GMT -5
Someone’s post just magically disappeared
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Post by garycoleco on Jun 27, 2024 7:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by mapper on Jun 27, 2024 8:28:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really agree with the methodology of the study. I'll call bullshit on it. So bullshit in, bullshit out.
A review of 1 million other publicly posted reviews of charging stations.
Somehow that just because some Harvard dude with a degree in climate studies and writes for a global business arm gives it legitimacy? And he gets paid big bucks for this supposed data driven study?
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Post by cyclist on Jun 27, 2024 9:21:31 GMT -5
Certainly on the fly road trip charging is a super crucial issue that is getting figured out. But consider that many if not most EVs are second cars and used for local commuting, the road trip charging is kinda a non-issue. My friends top off their batteries a couple of times a week at home. That being said, everyone I know that has an EV uses them on road trips more than their gasser. Because they are nice to drive, fun, cheap and more eco. Most trips they take are not aimlessly wandering around podunck USA looking for places without a charger, they are to visit family, friends, and Airbandb destinations. Almost all along major highways, they use the tesla app. which is pretty stellar and eliminates wasted stops, broken chargers, etc. They are predictable trips with easy stops near restaurants etc. and represent probably the majority of charging needs.
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Post by mapper on Jun 27, 2024 9:51:15 GMT -5
Well since there are numerous charge connections (at least 4 connection types) and not a standard like say a diameter of a gas nozzle at a pump, it seems like trying to find your way through the forest of Mirkwood watching out for spiders trying to find the one that fits. There is a lot of podunk in the US, and some quite scenic. So not everyone lives in cities, airports, and interstates and major routes. For those who find a ev meets their needs, I'm happy for them. BUT they do not meet EVRYONES needs.
I did see on the map where a fire station was listed as a charger.
Zoom out and see diffrent color pin options for that scenic wander around podunk.
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Post by gandy on Jun 27, 2024 11:59:44 GMT -5
"Well since there are numerous charge connections (at least 4 connection types) and not a standard like say a diameter of a gas nozzle at a pump, it seems like trying to find your way through the forest of Mirkwood watching out for spiders trying to find the one that fits." You say that like the WWW doesn't know where the car is, where the charging stations are and the connecters are going to be an ever changing surprise.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 27, 2024 12:18:21 GMT -5
It's always interesting when people who dont own EVs spew negative tripe and those that have hands on experience say they dont have problems using one for the purpose they purchased it for.
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Post by mapper on Jun 27, 2024 12:36:55 GMT -5
OK, evs are wonderful, solve every use and should be mandated for every application.. I can't wait until they can fly and are used in marine uses.batteries are the solution for everything.
Ferris you also forgot the ones who don't own them and spew positive vaporware..
The only opinion that matters are the owners and users of them.
The long term test on this should be good to follow,
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 27, 2024 12:38:45 GMT -5
Acting superior to the hoi pol-oi. All they are good for!
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Post by cyclist on Jun 27, 2024 13:23:57 GMT -5
OK, evs are wonderful, solve every use and should be mandated for every application.. I can't wait until they can fly and are used in marine uses.batteries are the solution for everything.
Ferris you also forgot the ones who don't own them and spew positive vaporware..
The only opinion that matters are the owners and users of them.
The long term test on this should be good to follow,
I could drive/Fly this too work, within range, plenty of space, charging no prob.
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