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Post by garycoleco on May 17, 2024 12:31:21 GMT -5
Fueled by lots of guvment zeros..... Gas and oil are heavily subsidized by the government ...and they are polluting our planet and raking in record profits. Aren't we the fools when green is bad and same ole BS that is killing our planet is good. Brainwashed self serving ignorants. Please let me know when you're released. I'll sign the warrant
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Post by luapnor on May 17, 2024 21:34:51 GMT -5
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Post by illinoisfisherman on May 18, 2024 4:13:58 GMT -5
Vehicles using more “environmentally friendly” fuels are going to be necessary however they will need to be slowly phased into the system. We are not even close to being ready for this yet.
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Post by cyclist on May 21, 2024 13:16:21 GMT -5
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Post by cyclist on May 21, 2024 13:17:04 GMT -5
Vehicles using more “environmentally friendly” fuels are going to be necessary however they will need to be slowly phased into the system. We are not even close to being ready for this yet. News flash, over 90% of US drivers would benefit with an EV, save money and energy.
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Post by johngalt on May 21, 2024 13:28:00 GMT -5
As long as it’s hauling potato chips or sailboat fuel, it’s fine. But out here in the real world it’s a pipe dream. They are too heavy, too expensive and short range.
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Post by cyclist on May 21, 2024 13:30:57 GMT -5
As long as it’s hauling potato chips or sailboat fuel, it’s fine. But out here in the real world it’s a pipe dream. They are too heavy, too expensive and short range. Its a cool auto, the test was interesting.
Real-world test has Tesla Semi silencing critics: ‘I never expected the Semi would actually be able to get numbers like this’ 679 Leo Collis December 5, 2023·3 min read Many detractors of electric vehicle technology often point to potential range as a notable drawback. The improvement of charging infrastructure, which allows for the possibility of longer journeys, and enhanced battery technology have made those voices a little quieter in recent years, though. Now, Tesla’s Semi might further quell some criticisms. In an independent study conducted by the North American Council for Freight Efficiency (NACFE), a Tesla Semi managed a distance of 1,076 miles over 24 hours.
As part of the 18-day Run On Less program conducted by the organization, the Semi achieved the feat on three charging stops, with two of those stops lasting less than 45 minutes, according to Freight Carbon Zero.
That outlet reported that a third stop of over an hour brought the Tesla’s battery charge from 3% to nearly 90%. The publication noted the truck was driving 81.8% of the time, while charging time only accounted for 11.1% of the journey.
The achievement is seriously impressive for the zero-tailpipe-pollution vehicle, and it’s turned some heads.
“I’m pro-EV and pro-Tesla, but I never expected the Semi would actually be able to get numbers like this,” said one commenter on Electrek. “Such amazing work.”
According to Tesla, the Semi boasts under two kilowatt-hours per mile of energy consumption and has a single-charge range of 500 miles.
PepsiCo is one of the main Semi customers, and it has seemingly been delighted with the performance of its 21 Class 8 trucks in Sacramento (Tesla has delivered additional Semi trucks for use at other Pepsi facilities, according to Electrek). This content is not available due to your privacy preferences. Update your settings here to see it.
Speaking in a video published by the NACFE in August, PepsiCo Fleet’s transformation and strategy director Amanda Devoe said the Semi was perfect for the company’s deliveries of under 100 miles across 12-hour days.
“With that duty cycle, we feel that the battery-electric vehicle is most advantageous in our decarbonization strategy,” she added.
According to the International Energy Agency, heavy-duty vehicles are a major contributor of tailpipe pollution, with trucking accounting for 80% of the rise in these planet-harming gases since 2000.
If the Semi can continue to produce results like this, it will go a long way to helping cut down the need for dirty-fuel-powered heavy vehicles that contribute to global heating.
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Post by luapnor on May 21, 2024 16:09:43 GMT -5
As long as it’s hauling potato chips or sailboat fuel, it’s fine. But out here in the real world it’s a pipe dream. They are too heavy, too expensive and short range. Its a cool auto, the test was interesting.
Real-world test has Tesla Semi silencing critics: ‘I never expected the Semi would actually be able to get numbers like this’ 679 Leo Collis December 5, 2023·3 min read Many detractors of electric vehicle technology often point to potential range as a notable drawback. The improvement of charging infrastructure, which allows for the possibility of longer journeys, and enhanced battery technology have made those voices a little quieter in recent years, though. Now, Tesla’s Semi might further quell some criticisms. In an independent study conducted by the North American Council for Freight Efficiency (NACFE), a Tesla Semi managed a distance of 1,076 miles over 24 hours. As part of the 18-day Run On Less program conducted by the organization, the Semi achieved the feat on three charging stops, with two of those stops lasting less than 45 minutes, according to Freight Carbon Zero.
That outlet reported that a third stop of over an hour brought the Tesla’s battery charge from 3% to nearly 90%. The publication noted the truck was driving 81.8% of the time, while charging time only accounted for 11.1% of the journey.
The achievement is seriously impressive for the zero-tailpipe-pollution vehicle, and it’s turned some heads.
“I’m pro-EV and pro-Tesla, but I never expected the Semi would actually be able to get numbers like this,” said one commenter on Electrek. “Such amazing work.”
According to Tesla, the Semi boasts under two kilowatt-hours per mile of energy consumption and has a single-charge range of 500 miles.
PepsiCo is one of the main Semi customers, and it has seemingly been delighted with the performance of its 21 Class 8 trucks in Sacramento (Tesla has delivered additional Semi trucks for use at other Pepsi facilities, according to Electrek). This content is not available due to your privacy preferences. Update your settings here to see it.
Speaking in a video published by the NACFE in August, PepsiCo Fleet’s transformation and strategy director Amanda Devoe said the Semi was perfect for the company’s deliveries of under 100 miles across 12-hour days.
“With that duty cycle, we feel that the battery-electric vehicle is most advantageous in our decarbonization strategy,” she added.
According to the International Energy Agency, heavy-duty vehicles are a major contributor of tailpipe pollution, with trucking accounting for 80% of the rise in these planet-harming gases since 2000.
If the Semi can continue to produce results like this, it will go a long way to helping cut down the need for dirty-fuel-powered heavy vehicles that contribute to global heating.
Focus... this has already had the rug pulled out from under it.
Another, "no shit, sherlock" moment. Companies Are Balking at the High Costs of Running Electric TrucksA Ryder analysis shows operating expenses of low-emissions rigs are far higher than those for diesel trucks.www.wsj.com/articles/companies-are-balking-at-the-high-costs-of-running-electric-trucks-fed0ce6e[/quote]
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Post by conchydong on May 21, 2024 16:25:10 GMT -5
Does anyone figure into the costs of replacement batteries after 7 years into the discussion? I still believe that EVs have a long way to go before they are viable for the masses.
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Post by whitebacon on May 21, 2024 16:44:10 GMT -5
Does anyone figure into the costs of replacement batteries after 7 years into the discussion? I still believe that EVs have a long way to go before they are viable for the masses. Of course they don't, that would 100% undermine their entire arguement. Factor in the massive environmental cost of mining cobalt......they conveniently ignore that too. Cobalt comes from Africa, so the tree huggers don't care if they fuck up that continent. If the batteries even make it seven years, (jury is still out on that one), then you've got to dispose of the current batteries.....where do THEY go, btw, a landfill? and the best part is you get to buy a replacement set at what......20-25k? More likely north of that.
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Post by cyclist on May 21, 2024 16:56:20 GMT -5
Its a cool auto, the test was interesting.
Real-world test has Tesla Semi silencing critics: ‘I never expected the Semi would actually be able to get numbers like this’ 679 Leo Collis December 5, 2023·3 min read Many detractors of electric vehicle technology often point to potential range as a notable drawback. The improvement of charging infrastructure, which allows for the possibility of longer journeys, and enhanced battery technology have made those voices a little quieter in recent years, though. Now, Tesla’s Semi might further quell some criticisms. In an independent study conducted by the North American Council for Freight Efficiency (NACFE), a Tesla Semi managed a distance of 1,076 miles over 24 hours. As part of the 18-day Run On Less program conducted by the organization, the Semi achieved the feat on three charging stops, with two of those stops lasting less than 45 minutes, according to Freight Carbon Zero.
That outlet reported that a third stop of over an hour brought the Tesla’s battery charge from 3% to nearly 90%. The publication noted the truck was driving 81.8% of the time, while charging time only accounted for 11.1% of the journey.
The achievement is seriously impressive for the zero-tailpipe-pollution vehicle, and it’s turned some heads.
“I’m pro-EV and pro-Tesla, but I never expected the Semi would actually be able to get numbers like this,” said one commenter on Electrek. “Such amazing work.”
According to Tesla, the Semi boasts under two kilowatt-hours per mile of energy consumption and has a single-charge range of 500 miles.
PepsiCo is one of the main Semi customers, and it has seemingly been delighted with the performance of its 21 Class 8 trucks in Sacramento (Tesla has delivered additional Semi trucks for use at other Pepsi facilities, according to Electrek). This content is not available due to your privacy preferences. Update your settings here to see it.
Speaking in a video published by the NACFE in August, PepsiCo Fleet’s transformation and strategy director Amanda Devoe said the Semi was perfect for the company’s deliveries of under 100 miles across 12-hour days.
“With that duty cycle, we feel that the battery-electric vehicle is most advantageous in our decarbonization strategy,” she added.
According to the International Energy Agency, heavy-duty vehicles are a major contributor of tailpipe pollution, with trucking accounting for 80% of the rise in these planet-harming gases since 2000.
If the Semi can continue to produce results like this, it will go a long way to helping cut down the need for dirty-fuel-powered heavy vehicles that contribute to global heating.
Focus... this has already had the rug pulled out from under it.
Another, "no shit, sherlock" moment. Companies Are Balking at the High Costs of Running Electric TrucksA Ryder analysis shows operating expenses of low-emissions rigs are far higher than those for diesel trucks.www.wsj.com/articles/companies-are-balking-at-the-high-costs-of-running-electric-trucks-fed0ce6e[/quote] Did you miss the post where Pepsi just ordered a bunch of evs semis from tesla boosting share price? Don't you people ever tire of being wrong all the time?
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Post by whitebacon on May 21, 2024 17:00:56 GMT -5
Does anyone figure into the costs of replacement batteries after 7 years into the discussion? I still believe that EVs have a long way to go before they are viable for the masses. Forgot to add 80-85% of EV's recharge from a local electric source. The electric company buys fossil fuels to run the electric plant. It's either stupidity, hypocrisy, or both. Still scratching my head on that one. So, strip mine cobalt in Africa, for the batteries, and burn fossil fuels for the electricity. If the government really cared, they should build nuclear power plants everywhere. I'd much rather build a $100 billion dollar nuclear power plant, which is very clean, than give $3 trillion unaccounted for dollars away to lobbyists and donors to the DNC, like Biden just did.
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Post by cyclist on May 21, 2024 17:21:01 GMT -5
Does anyone figure into the costs of replacement batteries after 7 years into the discussion? I still believe that EVs have a long way to go before they are viable for the masses. Forgot to add 80-85% of EV's recharge from a local electric source. The electric company buys fossil fuels to run the electric plant. It's either stupidity, hypocrisy, or both. Still scratching my head on that one. So, strip mine cobalt in Africa, for the batteries, and burn fossil fuels for the electricity. If the government really cared, they should build nuclear power plants everywhere. I'd much rather build a $100 billion dollar nuclear power plant, which is very clean, than give $3 trillion unaccounted for dollars away to lobbyists and donors to the DNC, like Biden just did. I know several folks whose solar is robust enough to fully charge their evs. Self sufficient, off grid. And doesn't Idaho? Get 35 to 40% of their energy from wind. The future is now, doubling down of very old technology is dumb.
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Post by Captj on May 21, 2024 17:37:38 GMT -5
Does anyone figure into the costs of replacement batteries after 7 years into the discussion? I still believe that EVs have a long way to go before they are viable for the masses. Tela's battery is guaranteed to last 8 years with an 80% charge at the 8 year point. You can debate them all you want, but they are coming regardless. All of the major auto manufacturers are betting on it. Battery architecture is being upgraded every day. Solid state batteries, different designs, materials, and software are bringing ev cars into our everyday lives rapidly. Billion dollar investments by the world leaders in auto manufacturing and design have made it so. As Rick Flair used to say: You might not like it but you'll learn to love it. Whooooooooooooo!
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Post by conchydong on May 21, 2024 17:44:42 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with bringing in new technology but it has to be gradual enough that it doesn't effect the American people. I am sure that eventually fossile fuels will be replaced but forcing people into this EV hysteria isn't good for the general public at this point in time. As a option for certain drivers, I have no problem with it but it still is in it's infancy and I am convinced that better technologies will come sooner than later.
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