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Post by OhMy on Apr 9, 2024 7:12:43 GMT -5
OK fair enough but do you consider almost half of the registered voters that may support Trump again as traitors? His answer is yes. That’s what makes him a fool. Trying to reason with a fool is a waste of time. He merely tows the line with the democratic party. They tell him how to think. His response to Covid brought an insane amount of comedic value to the forum.
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Post by johngalt on Apr 9, 2024 8:24:09 GMT -5
OK fair enough but do you consider almost half of the registered voters that may support Trump again as traitors? One that supports trump supports treason, treasonous acts would be what makes them traitors. But on the other hand, you support open borders, human trafficking, sexual exploitation of children, Muslims chanting death to America within our borders, corruption in government, a two tiered justice system, people thinking they can change their sex, the mutilation of children, out of control spending and I’m sure a lot more things to bring not just our country down but our society with it. So you just keep spewing your nonsense.
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Post by meateater on Apr 9, 2024 12:41:42 GMT -5
OK fair enough but do you consider almost half of the registered voters that may support Trump again as traitors? No, I don't. Some are in that they support armed insurrection against my country's government. The J6ers are even though I feel a substantial number got caught up in a "mob mentality" deal. Still they are culpable IMO. They put themselves in that situation. I think most are simply deluded and think no matter what Trump does or says he is the lesser of evils. He's has said he is comparable to Jesus Christ and Nelson Mandela I don't buy it. I also don't buy a lot of other things about but I have already expressed those thoughts. other the the overwhelmed and poorly trained capital police not 1 gun used or confiscated, armed i dont think so. a insurrection not even close.
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Post by cadman on Apr 9, 2024 13:14:14 GMT -5
No, I don't. Some are in that they support armed insurrection against my country's government. The J6ers are even though I feel a substantial number got caught up in a "mob mentality" deal. Still they are culpable IMO. They put themselves in that situation. I think most are simply deluded and think no matter what Trump does or says he is the lesser of evils. He's has said he is comparable to Jesus Christ and Nelson Mandela I don't buy it. I also don't buy a lot of other things about but I have already expressed those thoughts. other the the overwhelmed and poorly trained capital police not 1 gun used or confiscated, armed i dont think so. a insurrection not even close. Nine people charged in the January 6th riot were charged with firearms violations. There were guns there. There was a small group, along with Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, that was convicted of Sedition. I think a very small group wanted to overthrow congress, just poorly organized and mostly idiots. The rest were rioters who got caught up in the mob mentality.
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Post by meateater on Apr 9, 2024 13:22:05 GMT -5
i think any president holding a loser rally is a dumbass idea. rallys are for winners, losers better luck next time now get back in the closet. that being said calling it a insurrection is so dumb. that group would have had a hard time taking over a starbucks.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 9, 2024 13:22:36 GMT -5
I think they were all idiots caught up in the moment of lunacy. I don’t believe 1 out of a 100 actually even thought about what they were doing let alone overthrowing the government.
To even say it was an “insurrection” is ludicrous.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 9, 2024 14:38:44 GMT -5
So long as the convicted seditionists enjoy their decades in prison for their treachery one can call it ludicrous all they want.
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Post by Captj on Apr 9, 2024 14:54:41 GMT -5
The Jan 6 rioters must have slept through government class in HS. Or they didn't make it to HS.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 9, 2024 15:27:49 GMT -5
Idiots yes
Rioters yes
Insurrectionists no
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Post by cyclist on Apr 9, 2024 15:33:22 GMT -5
Idiots yes Rioters yes Insurrectionists no Yeah they were, not all, but many.
Abstract:
This network visualization maps the extremist connections of, and between, the January 6 Capitol riot defendants. The map presents 280 Capitol defendants with links to 46 extremist groups and movements, representing approximately 35 percent of all such defendants. These defendants form 745 dyadic relationships to the groups and to each other.
Research Area: Radical Beliefs and Behavior Topics: Right-wing Terrorism Terrorist Networks
Capitol Insurrection Network Map
As of January 2023, more than 300 defendants who have been criminally charged for participating in the January 6, 2021, attack on the United States Capitol have been identified as having connections to contemporary extremist groups and movements, including the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, and the QAnon conspiracy theory, as well as other less populous entities. The January 6th defendants collectively form more than 900 links to these groups and each other. The Capitol insurrection network map displays these relationships, helping users identify the ideologies and networks that played a central role in the attack.
To be included in the network map, a defendant must have a link to an extremist group or movement that was established prior to January 6, 2021, and that connection must be documented in court records, news articles, or other open sources. A connection between a defendant and a group/movement was made if the individual was a formal member of an extremist group (e.g., Proud Boys and Oath Keepers), self-identified as a member of an extremist movement that does not have a formal membership process (e.g., QAnon and Three Percenters Movement) or publicly praised an extremist group or movement prior to the January 6th attack. Links between defendants were made if there is evidence in open sources that the individuals communicated with each other, in person or online, prior to January 6, 2021. The Capitol insurrection network map only includes individuals who have been charged with criminal offenses in state, local, or federal court for participating in the attack on the Capitol. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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Post by biminitwisted on Apr 9, 2024 15:57:20 GMT -5
I just hope the Vice President has the courage to do the right thing, or that President Biden will use his total and complete immunity and send in Seal Team Six to take care of business before the inauguration.
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 9, 2024 16:48:23 GMT -5
One of Trumps main stooges.
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 9, 2024 18:18:01 GMT -5
Idiots yes Rioters yes Insurrectionists no Yeah they were, not all, but many.
Abstract:
This network visualization maps the extremist connections of, and between, the January 6 Capitol riot defendants. The map presents 280 Capitol defendants with links to 46 extremist groups and movements, representing approximately 35 percent of all such defendants. These defendants form 745 dyadic relationships to the groups and to each other.
Research Area: Radical Beliefs and Behavior Topics: Right-wing Terrorism Terrorist Networks
Capitol Insurrection Network Map
As of January 2023, more than 300 defendants who have been criminally charged for participating in the January 6, 2021, attack on the United States Capitol have been identified as having connections to contemporary extremist groups and movements, including the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, and the QAnon conspiracy theory, as well as other less populous entities. The January 6th defendants collectively form more than 900 links to these groups and each other. The Capitol insurrection network map displays these relationships, helping users identify the ideologies and networks that played a central role in the attack.
To be included in the network map, a defendant must have a link to an extremist group or movement that was established prior to January 6, 2021, and that connection must be documented in court records, news articles, or other open sources. A connection between a defendant and a group/movement was made if the individual was a formal member of an extremist group (e.g., Proud Boys and Oath Keepers), self-identified as a member of an extremist movement that does not have a formal membership process (e.g., QAnon and Three Percenters Movement) or publicly praised an extremist group or movement prior to the January 6th attack. Links between defendants were made if there is evidence in open sources that the individuals communicated with each other, in person or online, prior to January 6, 2021. The Capitol insurrection network map only includes individuals who have been charged with criminal offenses in state, local, or federal court for participating in the attack on the Capitol. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
Would illegal using American taxpayers dollars to spread disinformation/lies be considered an insurrection?
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 9, 2024 19:46:50 GMT -5
One could say yes, given the willingness of some here to stretch the definition. 🙄
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Post by johngalt on Apr 10, 2024 9:31:33 GMT -5
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