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Post by Captj on Apr 1, 2024 16:11:44 GMT -5
I would think the stars and strips to be more appropriate on a bike than the stars and bars.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 17:27:01 GMT -5
Everyone said I was a rebel in my youth. Thus the Stars and Bars. It started out as a surprise from a friend that was painting my fenders for me. It just seemed to happen to every hog I ever rode after that either paint or a sticker. I didn’t put the stickers on. My friends did.
Anyway I calmed down as I aged out.
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 1, 2024 17:58:53 GMT -5
I would think the stars and strips to be more appropriate on a bike than the stars and bars. I have always thought that and I was born and raised in the south.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 18:03:37 GMT -5
I would think the stars and strips to be more appropriate on a bike than the stars and bars. I have always thought that and I was born and raised in the south. I was young. Thinking was not a strong point back then. Sorry.
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 1, 2024 18:07:18 GMT -5
I have always thought that and I was born and raised in the south. I was young. Thinking was not a strong point back then. Sorry. Nothing to apologize for. We were all young once. I had many friends that did and still do display the confederate battle flag.
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Post by conchydong on Apr 1, 2024 18:38:14 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with southern pride IMO. Just because you believe in it doesn't mean you are racist. I judge people on their actions and not their skin color. If a majority of folks of a certain "race" no matter what race it is and do not want to be a part of civilized society than I will judge accordingly, regardless of ethnicity or skin color. Everyone should be respectful of each other until proven otherwise.
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Post by gardawg on Apr 1, 2024 21:59:32 GMT -5
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Post by Tarponator on Apr 1, 2024 23:25:26 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with southern pride IMO. Just because you believe in it doesn't mean you are racist. I judge people on their actions and not their skin color. If a majority of folks of a certain "race" no matter what race it is and do not want to be a part of civilized society than I will judge accordingly, regardless of ethnicity or skin color. Everyone should be respectful of each other until proven otherwise. Come on, Conchy! You will judge accordingly? That sounds quite racist! Put yourself in the shoes of the minority of whatever race you're talking about and then argue it isn't. I agree with all there rest, FWIW, but you're better than that.
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 2, 2024 0:10:42 GMT -5
I would think the stars and strips to be more appropriate on a bike than the stars and bars. A lot of bikers use direct Nazi imagery. Even bike clubs defined by non-white identity. That tradition started with WWII vets coming home and forming bike clubs based on the affinity they developed for Harleys during the war. They tended to wear their war trophies when they went on rides, often consisting of hats, helmets, and patches they got off of dead or captured Germans. From there, the Nazi insignias became symbols of rebellion. If otherwise very non-racist bikers developed a liking of Nazi symbology for the sake of being rebellious, the Confed battle flag seems much milder in comparison.
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 2, 2024 9:08:53 GMT -5
I'd bet that's on the beach where TampaSpicer hangs out.
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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 2, 2024 9:17:04 GMT -5
I'd bet that's on the beach where TampaSpicer hangs out. Doggy style is encouraged on my beach. Mouth hugs too.
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Post by luapnor on Apr 2, 2024 9:27:28 GMT -5
I would think the stars and strips to be more appropriate on a bike than the stars and bars. A lot of bikers use direct Nazi imagery. Even bike clubs defined by non-white identity. That tradition started with WWII vets coming home and forming bike clubs based on the affinity they developed for Harleys during the war. They tended to wear their war trophies when they went on rides, often consisting of hats, helmets, and patches they got off of dead or captured Germans. From there, the Nazi insignias became symbols of rebellion. If otherwise very non-racist bikers developed a liking of Nazi symbology for the sake of being rebellious, the Confed battle flag seems much milder in comparison. It wasnt the WW2 vets that I ever met that would show off their trophies. Maybe their boomer kids that picked up on the Swastika as a form of rebellion. The vets I met may have had the trophies but they didnt display them... they were all very patriotic and protective of the US flag. Of course, I dont claim to know them all but even the bikers I saw werent WW2 vets but boomers.
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 2, 2024 11:22:12 GMT -5
A lot of bikers use direct Nazi imagery. Even bike clubs defined by non-white identity. That tradition started with WWII vets coming home and forming bike clubs based on the affinity they developed for Harleys during the war. They tended to wear their war trophies when they went on rides, often consisting of hats, helmets, and patches they got off of dead or captured Germans. From there, the Nazi insignias became symbols of rebellion. If otherwise very non-racist bikers developed a liking of Nazi symbology for the sake of being rebellious, the Confed battle flag seems much milder in comparison. It wasnt the WW2 vets that I ever met that would show off their trophies. Maybe their boomer kids that picked up on the Swastika as a form of rebellion. The vets I met may have had the trophies but they didnt display them... they were all very patriotic and protective of the US flag. Of course, I dont claim to know them all but even the bikers I saw werent WW2 vets but boomers. Look it up. It was WWII vets showing off their trophies. They didn’t see any contradiction between being patriots and wearing German memorabilia for shock value.
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Post by cadman on Apr 2, 2024 11:38:07 GMT -5
I would think the stars and strips to be more appropriate on a bike than the stars and bars. A lot of bikers use direct Nazi imagery. Even bike clubs defined by non-white identity. That tradition started with WWII vets coming home and forming bike clubs based on the affinity they developed for Harleys during the war. They tended to wear their war trophies when they went on rides, often consisting of hats, helmets, and patches they got off of dead or captured Germans. From there, the Nazi insignias became symbols of rebellion. If otherwise very non-racist bikers developed a liking of Nazi symbology for the sake of being rebellious, the Confed battle flag seems much milder in comparison. Then why doesn't the Hell's Angels or Outlaws have black members in the U.S.? As the Hell's Angels club President said in a 2000 interview "The club, as a whole, is not racist but we probably have enough racist members that no black guy is going to get in it." I always thought it was an anti-social thing as much as showing off trophies. Their way of flipping the bird at the middle class while saying we beat the Nazis.
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