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Post by treetom on Mar 26, 2024 21:01:08 GMT -5
Thousands of acres of solar panels in Texas destroyed by hailstorm. Video.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Mar 26, 2024 21:34:04 GMT -5
Welp somebody's gotta replace/repair them. Sounds like hobs to me. (My son in laws worked in a solar plant in southwest Ga)
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Post by tonyroma on Mar 26, 2024 22:18:47 GMT -5
Oil wells explode and dump millions of gallons into the gulf, who pays for that?
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Post by stc1993 on Mar 26, 2024 22:24:22 GMT -5
We have 1 at the USMC base here about 1/2 or 1/4 that size.
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Post by gandy on Mar 27, 2024 5:19:42 GMT -5
Google earth has blurred some solar fields local to me. 2021 2021 2023
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Post by cadman on Mar 27, 2024 5:47:35 GMT -5
I am sure they have insurance for such events. That is some damage.
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Post by jmarkb on Mar 27, 2024 6:04:37 GMT -5
I am sure they have insurance for such events. That is some damage. What Cad said. The fields belong to a power company. It will get fixed on their dime.
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Post by jmarkb on Mar 27, 2024 6:05:26 GMT -5
Oil wells explode and dump millions of gallons into the gulf, who pays for that? Pretty sure it was BP
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Post by jmarkb on Mar 27, 2024 6:08:26 GMT -5
There's likely to be some major damage around here when the sun comes up. It's been hailing off and on since about 10:00 or so last night. Some off it close to golf ball size.
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Post by slough on Mar 27, 2024 6:44:53 GMT -5
I am sure they have insurance for such events. That is some damage. What Cad said. The fields belong to a power company. It will get fixed on their dime. The solar fields are owned by private or investor base companies that sell the power to Power Companies.
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Post by cadman on Mar 27, 2024 6:58:57 GMT -5
This was back on March 15th and it was baseball-sized hail that caused the damage. The solar farm is still producing electricity at a reduced rate. It is owned by a partnership. The article says solar panels can take a lot of abuse. Not sure anything can take baseball-size hail. Wonder what it did to homes and vehicles in the area. www.newsweek.com/thousands-solar-panels-texas-destroyed-hailstorm-1883546
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Post by johngalt on Mar 27, 2024 7:16:06 GMT -5
What Cad said. The fields belong to a power company. It will get fixed on their dime. The solar fields are owned by private or investor base companies that sell the power to Power Companies. The ones here in north Florida are owned by FPL and Duke Energy according the signs on the gates. They are destroying thousands of acres of good pasture land and crop land putting those ridiculous things up. I’m sure us taxpayers will be footing most of that hail damage through more subsidies to those energy companies.
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Post by gandy on Mar 27, 2024 7:19:26 GMT -5
The solar fields are owned by private or investor base companies that sell the power to Power Companies. The ones here in north Florida are owned by FPL and Duke Energy according the signs on the gates. They are destroying thousands of acres of good pasture land and crop land putting those ridiculous things up. I’m sure us taxpayers will be footing most of that hail damage through more subsidies to those energy companies. Could run some aquaculture under those panels zap-pow
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Post by slough on Mar 27, 2024 14:43:49 GMT -5
The solar fields are owned by private or investor base companies that sell the power to Power Companies. The ones here in north Florida are owned by FPL and Duke Energy according the signs on the gates. They are destroying thousands of acres of good pasture land and crop land putting those ridiculous things up. I’m sure us taxpayers will be footing most of that hail damage through more subsidies to those energy companies. That is not the case here in Ga.
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Post by tampaspicer on Mar 27, 2024 15:57:02 GMT -5
The ones here in north Florida are owned by FPL and Duke Energy according the signs on the gates. They are destroying thousands of acres of good pasture land and crop land putting those ridiculous things up. I’m sure us taxpayers will be footing most of that hail damage through more subsidies to those energy companies. That is not the case here in Ga. Aren't a lot of them co-op community based power fields?
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Post by slough on Mar 27, 2024 16:59:26 GMT -5
Most of the ones in Ga are built by independent corporations. They go into an area with the right info structure and secure land and zoning. They then put into the lottery that Ga Power has for that year. If they win, they move forward, if not they usually try again the next go round. They have to be close to a major line and grid that can take the additional power. Mitchell Co has/had a major line running through coming from a decommissioned coal plant. A lot of the companies that build them, sell them once they are on line. The first one here about 15 years ago has sold at least 3 times.
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Post by jmarkb on Mar 27, 2024 20:59:15 GMT -5
That is not the case here in Ga. Aren't a lot of them co-op community based power fields? Nope, most belong to FPL and Duke as was already posted.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Mar 27, 2024 21:13:31 GMT -5
Most of the ones in Ga are built by independent corporations. They go into an area with the right info structure and secure land and zoning. They then put into the lottery that Ga Power has for that year. If they win, they move forward, if not they usually try again the next go round. They have to be close to a major line and grid that can take the additional power. Mitchell Co has/had a major line running through coming from a decommissioned coal plant. A lot of the companies that build them, sell them once they are on line. The first one here about 15 years ago has sold at least 3 times. Couple of our guys went to the one GA power bought or owns near Donaldsonville. To hear them say it if a dick job exist that's it. They have to be on call I think one weekend a month. Sounds horrible right? They can do everything from a lap top at home!!! My two boys worked on building the one near Blakely. Said it was hard work but enjoyable. Had some good guys running the job which makes all the difference in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2024 21:37:43 GMT -5
Another reason why the country is not ready to wean itself off of fossil fuel too quickly.
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Post by olmucky on Mar 28, 2024 5:08:33 GMT -5
Oil wells explode and dump millions of gallons into the gulf, who pays for that? The cleanup , aftermath or the new rig?
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Post by jcbcpa on Mar 28, 2024 8:04:19 GMT -5
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Post by ferris1248 on Mar 28, 2024 8:40:59 GMT -5
Pretty impressive really......Congrats to Governor Kemp and the state of Georgia. "Some of the fiscal reasons that contribute to that great climate are discussed in this month’s pages. One element discussed in our energy story is the reliability of Georgia’s grid and power supply. The successful launch of the new Plant Vogtle reactor has been a massive influence on company decisions to expand or locate business operations in the state. Georgia is also ahead of the pack in renewable energy efforts, which have contributed to a cottage industry revolving around sustainable options, with more expansion potential reflecting federal policy." "Georgia has a particularly healthy solar industry, ranking third behind Florida and North Carolina in the seven-state region in 2022, according to a 2023 Southern Alliance for Clean Energy (SACE) report. Georgia Power and Oglethorpe Power are both in the top 10 solar providers in the Southeast. Walton EMC in Northeast Georgia has the highest solar-to-customer ratio in the region, in part thanks to a successful collaboration with Meta to use solar to power its Newton County data center." "In Northwest Georgia, Qcells is building a new 3.3-gigawatt plant near Cartersville and adding another 2.1 gigawatts of capacity to its plant in Dalton, citing domestic manufacturing incentives in its reasons for expansion, which is estimated to bring 2,500 jobs. The $2.5 billion investment is expected to bring its total solar production capacity in Georgia to 8.4 gigawatts by 2024 and increase its total number of employees to more than 4,000." "Tennessee company Silicon Ranch has invested $3 billion in solar farms in Georgia, creating 6,500 jobs and 1,950 MWac (megawatt altering current), the power equivalent of 300,000 homes annually." "Founded in Atlanta in 2007, Radiance Solar operates solar farms throughout Georgia, including Ashton, Woodland, Camilla, Arlington and Montezuma and was ranked the No. 1 commercial and industrial (C&I) installer in 2022 by Solar Power World." "There are policy proposals to make Georgia solar even more robust. Net metering, a program that credits solar customers for their excess energy, was capped at 5,000 and has been full since 2021. Solar advocates are pushing to expand the program, which can dramatically lower bills and increase the incentive for rooftop solar. James Marlow, founder of Radiance and president of Southface, recently noted the potential for increasing rooftop solar on manufacturing and distribution centers." www.georgiatrend.com/2023/12/24/solar-industry-shining-in-georgia/
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Post by luapnor on Mar 29, 2024 10:47:38 GMT -5
Dead solar panels are easy to recycle because they are still intact but those that are destroyed in the field will require full remediation of the land to reclaim the heavy metals from the soil that are pounded into little pieces by the hail. A destroyed solar farm is a toxic waste land. These solar farms are extremely stupid ideas.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Mar 29, 2024 11:21:54 GMT -5
I know this makes it easy to hate on Solar or wind for that matter. The thing is weather happens and no energy source is completely immune to it. Just a few years ago a tornado hit Browns Ferry Nuclear plant destroying its low voltage switch yard and a couple of their transmission towers nearby. Nobody sees solar as a replacement but rather as a supplement. If it made no sense then utilities, co Ops, and municipalities big and small would not fool with it. And the military surely wouldn't. Most military bases have a solar field now. Of "alternative" energy I will admit Solar is my least favorite. But it's gonna be part of the mix until we find something else. Fusion may just be the thing that puts them all including me out of business. If they can ever get it to put out more than you have to put in to sustain the reaction. There are claims they are getting closer. I suppose we will see.
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Post by flysalt069 on Mar 29, 2024 11:48:06 GMT -5
That one in Texas is one my son worked on engineering team. His company engineered quite a few in Texas and most of the ones in south ga. As for doing away with farm land. Farmers are being payed pretty good for the lease or out right sell. Lot of young folks don’t want to farm. Drive from Columbus ga to Macon ga. The number and size of solar farms is staggering. Fusion is still the ticket as Polar said. But nuke industry is stagnant. Last thing my son did was engineering a giant control transformer for a plant in northeast that being shutdown in a year.
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Post by johngalt on Mar 29, 2024 12:17:01 GMT -5
That one in Texas is one my son worked on engineering team. His company engineered quite a few in Texas and most of the ones in south ga. As for doing away with farm land. Farmers are being payed pretty good for the lease or out right sell. Lot of young folks don’t want to farm. Drive from Columbus ga to Macon ga. The number and size of solar farms is staggering. Fusion is still the ticket as Polar said. But nuke industry is stagnant. Last thing my son did was engineering a giant control transformer for a plant in northeast that being shutdown in a year. “Doing away with farmland”. Let that sink in. 🤔
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Post by misterjr on Mar 29, 2024 12:35:02 GMT -5
Another reason why the country is not ready to wean itself off of fossil fuel too quickly. J.D. Power now forecasts U.S. electric vehicle market share will hit 12.4% in 2024, up from 7.6% in 2023.Mar 5, 2024
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Post by nuevowavo on Mar 29, 2024 13:01:55 GMT -5
Another reason why the country is not ready to wean itself off of fossil fuel too quickly. J.D. Power now forecasts U.S. electric vehicle market share will hit 12.4% in 2024, up from 7.6% in 2023.Mar 5, 2024
Texas produces the most renewable power (solar and wind) of any state, and Iowa uses the highest percentage (60% of their power consumption). Draw your own conclusion (economic, not political).
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Post by johngalt on Mar 29, 2024 13:43:44 GMT -5
J.D. Power now forecasts U.S. electric vehicle market share will hit 12.4% in 2024, up from 7.6% in 2023.Mar 5, 2024
Texas produces the most renewable power (solar and wind) of any state, and Iowa uses the highest percentage (60% of their power consumption). Draw your own conclusion (economic, not political).
I remember driving across Texas on I10 between Junction Texas a Fort Stockton and watching those sunrises and sunsets on those hills, an incredible view. Now they are covered with windmills.
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