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Post by Stumpy on Feb 14, 2024 11:34:41 GMT -5
is that confirmed by fwc that the system is required to issue less quota permits to resident exempt hunters ? ------the system should be changed to allow exempt hunters to be able to receive a quota for wmas, that allow exemptions, so that they can have a quest permit for assistance, etc If you are exempt and you apply for a exempt hunt the system will kick out your application to the exempt hunt... you do not get a guest quota to a hunt you are exempt to hunt....you do not get a paper quota to a exempt hunt. As a exempt hunter when you show up at a wma that allows exemptions, you just tell the gate attendant your exempt....no gate attendant at wma, drive in and hunt.
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Post by JS84 on Feb 14, 2024 12:21:45 GMT -5
Makes sense. Awarded hunters can bring a guest, an exempt hunter gets no guest as the exemption is for the individual.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 14, 2024 12:53:40 GMT -5
As an exempt hunter, I have had no more problems drawing quota hunts than my younger friends, maybe I'm just lucky. I have even been tagged out before but still had a quota for an upcoming hunt and carried a guest. I just went and observed the hunt. If I couldn't find a guest, I turned the permit in.
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Post by meateater on Feb 14, 2024 13:14:17 GMT -5
is that confirmed by fwc that the system is required to issue less quota permits to resident exempt hunters ? ------the system should be changed to allow exempt hunters to be able to receive a quota for wmas, that allow exemptions, so that they can have a quest permit for assistance, etc If you are exempt and you apply for a exempt hunt the system will kick out your application to the exempt hunt... you do not get a guest quota to a hunt you are exempt to hunt....you do not get a paper quota to a exempt hunt. As a exempt hunter when you show up at a wma that allows exemptions, you just tell the gate attendant your exempt....no gate attendant at wma, drive in and hunt. yes, but nothing to stop a 103 year old ww2 veteran from buying a hunting license and applying in the general regular drawing, building up preference points same as other licensed hunters. guys i know say its much better odds this way getting a permit since whether or not the wma allows exemptions or not you still have a chance. deer hunting i dont know how it works but if you want to turkey hunt a prime wma your better off buying the license and entering the drawing that way. being exempt might save you 60 bucks but the odds of you getting picked are very slim. from what ive been told a certain number of permits go to licensed florida hunters, certain amount to outa state hunters and a certain amount go to exempt /over 65 who did not buy a license.
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Post by meateater on Feb 14, 2024 13:18:42 GMT -5
As an exempt hunter, I have had no more problems drawing quota hunts than my younger friends, maybe I'm just lucky. I have even been tagged out before but still had a quota for an upcoming hunt and carried a guest. I just went and observed the hunt. If I couldn't find a guest, I turned the permit in. depends on what wma your trying to hunt and season, and yea your lucky i guess, turkey season in south zone at any decent wma takes 3 plus years to get picked.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 14, 2024 14:21:09 GMT -5
The problem that y'all have in the south is too many people putting in for too few hunts. Throwing in the non residents that believe the only place to kill an Osceola is south Florida, y'all are fighting a losing battle. Personally, I can't tell the difference in the enjoyment of hunting a bird with black wings versus one with white wings, they are all good.
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Post by Stumpy on Feb 14, 2024 16:15:42 GMT -5
If you are exempt and you apply for a exempt hunt the system will kick out your application to the exempt hunt... you do not get a guest quota to a hunt you are exempt to hunt....you do not get a paper quota to a exempt hunt. As a exempt hunter when you show up at a wma that allows exemptions, you just tell the gate attendant your exempt....no gate attendant at wma, drive in and hunt. yes, but nothing to stop a 103 year old ww2 veteran from buying a hunting license and applying in the general regular drawing, building up preference points same as other licensed hunters. guys i know say its much better odds this way getting a permit since whether or not the wma allows exemptions or not you still have a chance. deer hunting i dont know how it works but if you want to turkey hunt a prime wma your better off buying the license and entering the drawing that way. being exempt might save you 60 bucks but the odds of you getting picked are very slim. from what ive been told a certain number of permits go to licensed florida hunters, certain amount to outa state hunters and a certain amount go to exempt /over 65 who did not buy a license. Me, as an exempt hunter, when I apply for non exempt permits, be it deer or turkey, if I am not drawn on the 1st phase I get a preference point just like everyone else not drawn. I was drawn for spring turkey wma local to me, it took 2 preference points. I've picked up redraws also, here and there... I'm not sure where you get your info on permit draws, but I feel like I'm in the system like everyone else..
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Post by tater on Feb 14, 2024 17:54:52 GMT -5
Screw Florida and all the rules. I am about to be 65 and haven't hunted Fl. In many years. Been here all my life, just do like me and a couple friends do. Get off your wallet and find a piece of land in bama. You will be happy and can kill all the deer you want. Just my opinion
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Post by Stumpy on Feb 14, 2024 18:09:26 GMT -5
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 14, 2024 19:10:21 GMT -5
So far as know, the number of non resident quota permits are not restricted, so I could not imagine the number of permits for exempt hunters be restricted whether they bought a license or not. Just a reasonable assumption on my part.
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Post by olmucky on Feb 15, 2024 11:12:31 GMT -5
I know one of the wma I regularly hunt has X permits given and allows the exempt aged and a buddy.
The dude at the gate keeps track.
With all the totals of hunters combined I don’t recall him ever reaching the number of permits given. IE if 75 permits were issued, he’s never counted 75 come in
That irks me the most
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Post by One Man Gang on Feb 15, 2024 11:54:11 GMT -5
Most of this quota bullshit is a direct result of the queerbois qlub constantly whining about what they believe their "quality" hunts should consist of, and their needs not being met... and a few other things.
From the looks of this thread it seems like everyone has a different interpretation of the rules and that's shameful of the rule making process and the responsibile agencies. None of this should be this confusing to so many people.
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Post by meateater on Feb 15, 2024 13:33:02 GMT -5
heres some of the confusion, my old geezer friends just assumed since they are exempt they dont need a quota, wrong old decrepit bogans need a quota on just about every south zone wma just like everyone else. its so hard to get a permit in the regular draw for a 35 year old guy every 3 or 4 years on average well shit if your 77 years old 3 or 4 years feels like 10 years. being exempt saves you the money you would spend on the license and thats it when talking south florida wma turkey hunting. no special treatment for old geezers. 60 bucks off now get in line with the rest of us gramps.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 15, 2024 14:07:12 GMT -5
Are you that threatened by an old man? Damn, I was feeling old and pretty useless. I feel better now that I can still put fear in some of these young Buck's heart. Lol
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Post by meateater on Feb 15, 2024 15:04:30 GMT -5
Are you that threatened by an old man? Damn, I was feeling old and pretty useless. I feel better now that I can still put fear in some of these young Buck's heart. Lol im a old fart at heart, only 58, but physically bout 87, mentally around 103, i think making some guy whos 75 wait 3 or 4 years to go turkey hunting on a decent piece of public land is bullspit, im on your side .
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